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Local man seeks truth in Flight 800 crash
Sun Gazette ^ | 5-21-13 | Mike Reuther

Posted on 06/22/2013 3:34:21 PM PDT by FlJoePa

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To: FlJoePa
"Grassley’s chief of staff, Jill Kozeny, said in response: “The record clearly shows Sen. Grassley’s strong effort to get answers from the then-Clinton administration, including Eric Holder who was then deputy attorney general and in charge of the FBI in that position.”"

So, good 'ole E. H0lder was up to his brown eyeballs in another coverup?

21 posted on 06/22/2013 4:10:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: FlJoePa

I’ve always suspected it could have been a manpads missile, fired from a boat at sea. I think the altitude was right on the fringe of modern capabilities, but possible with the right missile. I doubt it was a Navy accident. A whole ship full of sailors isn’t keeping that secret for long. It’s just not happening. But a terrorist op... Entirely plausible.

I even understand the reasoning behind keeping it secret. Deny the terrorist his credit and you deny him his reward. You take away his whole reason to do it. I get it. I’m not crazy about it, but I do get it.

But why then... didn’t they do it again? Any number of airports are vulnerable like this. Why haven’t they tried again? Or even if they never did it... Why when its so obvious a way to blow airliners out of the sky?

Curious. Whatever it was, I still don’t buy the low-voltage short in the center fuel tank. I’m not sure you could even MAKE that happen.


22 posted on 06/22/2013 4:10:36 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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"I’m not sure you could even MAKE that happen."

CBS was able to get a GM pickup with saddle tanks to explode.....

23 posted on 06/22/2013 4:12:02 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: BCW

I remember qualified experts in thier field of aeronautics saying that they saw a missle trail.
The investigators then conducted a ‘cover up’ which was sold to the American public ,
just as “the movie” that no one saw was seen to initiate the attack on Benghazi.
The government lies effectively , as long as no one asks questions during the inquiry .


24 posted on 06/22/2013 4:14:03 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Louis Freeh seems to come up in a lot of these conspiracies.

The interesting thing too...a lot of these FBI investigators went on to work for MBNA.

MBNA (the largest second mile donor ever) + Ric Struthers + Louis Freeh @ PSU = $10 million contract.

Again, go figure.


25 posted on 06/22/2013 4:14:19 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Did you mean reelected?
26 posted on 06/22/2013 4:19:09 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: FlJoePa

To clarify - Louis Freeh was Chief Legal Counsel for MBNA (while they were donating to second mile).


27 posted on 06/22/2013 4:20:32 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I always thought it was shot down...when witnesses say what they say - even if there might be some minor flaws...they all point to a SAM...by who...I don’t know...


28 posted on 06/22/2013 4:21:57 PM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html - A real life experience book about the war in Iraq)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I remember on tv the night it happened, a couple interviewed on the beach saw a trail of fire go up. There may have been more witnesses like that, but I only remember the one couple and think probably all footage of that and others was destroyed or hidden away.


29 posted on 06/22/2013 4:27:22 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: FlJoePa

Donald Nibert, a retired Penn College forestry professor, said” from the beginning all he has wanted is the truth from investigators”

With all due respect , Mr Nibert wants to see HIS version of what he demands to be the truth


30 posted on 06/22/2013 4:27:29 PM PDT by Cyman
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Why didn’t planes just “blow up” in mid air before this one? Seems a bit odd, no?


31 posted on 06/22/2013 4:31:49 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

We are not a nation that cannot take the Truth; we have a government that cannot speak the Truth, nor does it know the Truth from the lies it tells repeatedly. And that bullies those who dare speak it into silence.

And what do you do with a bully? Stand firm, refuse to be cowed, and speak the Truth. The Truth will set you free.


32 posted on 06/22/2013 4:33:24 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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About a year after the crash, Nibert recalled receiving an anonymous call from a woman who claimed that her relative was responsible for shooting down the plane from a submarine.

please...

33 posted on 06/22/2013 4:34:23 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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I don’t know what blew it up...but if you’re telling me it just happened on it’s own, I’ll call you on it, because I don’t buy it. Not only is it not plausible, it is really inconceivable. Especially once you consider the various known liar gubbmint characters involved after the fact.


34 posted on 06/22/2013 4:39:22 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Paladin2

Wasn’t that NBC and a Ford?


35 posted on 06/22/2013 4:39:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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Either way — you make a good point!


36 posted on 06/22/2013 4:40:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: FlJoePa

Am I the only person in the world who remembers Dan Rather talking live to the New York El Al representative immediately after the crash? (hopefully I’m not getting my plane crashes confused) The rep of the Israeli airlines said they had late intel that their plane was targeted and canceled their flight. Flight 800 took off in its place. There wasn’t time to warn anyone else.


37 posted on 06/22/2013 4:40:52 PM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow
The July 1996 airplane ''accident'' happened just before Hillary's hired hand Craig Livingston (holding FBI files) was to testify before Congress. The Congressional Hearings were thereby cancelled. As the Media was already swarming all over the TWA 800 ''accident''. Livingston was thus handily 'forgotten'.

Monica Lewinsky scandal was not to be revealed for another 16-18 months (Sep 1997).

38 posted on 06/22/2013 4:48:34 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Paladin2
CBS was able to get a GM pickup with saddle tanks to explode.....

That was NBC Dateline, and they faked those tests. They welded a long spike on the front of the ramming car to make sure the tank was broken open, and they mounted Estes model rocket motors underneath to ensure there would be a big fire.

39 posted on 06/22/2013 4:54:27 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: BenLurkin
'Twas definitely a GM as they had the tanks located outboard of the frame on both sides.

As noted below/above NBC wuz the sleazy network for that "report".

40 posted on 06/22/2013 5:02:05 PM PDT by Paladin2
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