Posted on 05/30/2013 9:12:47 PM PDT by garjog
Why not just create a new villain?
Karl Urban definitely channels DeForest Kelley.
He also played Eomer in Lord of the Rings and is from New Zealand.
I agree. Shatner's Kirk became Captain of the flagship at an early age because he studied and was serious in his youth. Pine's Kirk is the class clown who in no way should be trusted with anything breakable. The audience seems to remember Shatner's Kirk as a lone wolf, but looking at the old episodes, it is mostly unmerited, especially compared to Pine's Kirk. Chris Pine takes it to an extreme it doesn't deserve. If they reboot the series again, I fully expect the Enterprise to be manned by those singing chipmonks.
” time to give up on this whole debacle, after all the original Star Trek is a leftys wet dream”
Did you notice that they place a transgender character at the helm on the bridge?
How progressive of them.
The blonde, while not functional in this movie, actually has a reason to be there in the timeline, so I let that pass. She is Carol Marcus, who will have a fling with Kirk and have a son, and then go off and invent the Genesis device with her son in time for the Wrath of Khan.
I won’t see it if Whippie Goldberg’s not in it, and that’s that!
“This Star Trek universe is an alternate one. “
OK. Good point. I forgot that. I wrote this quickly with not a lot of research.
Now I remember that the new Star Trek was meant to be an alternative universe. That could explain the plot inconsistencies.
The new Khan doesn’t have to be like the old one. The new Kirk can be a playboy instead of sharp by the books guy. A hot babe can be a main character.
But, it seems like a cop out for script writers.
After two weeks, that movie has deteriorated into a series of bright flashes and some cuts of movement with no form, and lens flares. But still, Carol Marcus in her underwear is one of the few things I can actually remember seeing.
Not all of them. Khan needs to be pretty much the same, because he took over a third of the world back in 1993. Then he escaped in his pods to float for 300 years. 300 years later is when the alternate universe forks off, so why would Khan look different?
Spoiler Alert...I just want to give fair warning...
Overall, I liked it a lot, even more than the 2009 Star Trek movie, which I also liked. Here’s a rundown on what I liked, and also a few things that I didn’t like as much. Surprisingly, I really liked Benedict Cumberbatch as the villain, even though he didn’t match up very well in terms of the established character of Khan from previous appearances. He was very effective in projecting a character that was believably menacing, an opponent that would be difficult to defeat. In fight scenes, he actually seemed convincing as someone who has been genetically engineered to be five times stronger than ordinary humans. I liked the new Engineer Scott quite a bit...he was more than just a bit player in this one, and the scriptwriters, and the actor, succeeded in making him likably vulnerable, funny, and brilliant all at the same time.
The things I didn’t like quite as much...Chris Pine as Captain Kirk is ok, but just not believable as a starship captain...he doesn’t have the gravitas (or the ridiculous overacting either) of William Shatner. Chris Pine is 32, but looks younger, and at times, he almost seems like a teenager. Zachary Quinto as Spock...he’s actually ok too, but his character doesn’t even seem like he’s making any effort at all to reign in his emotions...he’s just too angry or irritated all the time. For me, this just doesn’t quite work for a character that is supposed to be half-Vulcan. When Leonard Nimoy showed any emotion as Spock it worked really well, because even the slightest display of emotion stood out, and was effectively amplified against the predominant backdrop of Vulcan passiveness.
The engine room death scene didn’t work very well, and they shouldn’t have even tried to do it. When Spock died in the 1982 Wrath of Khan, it was very powerful emotionally (for me anyway), partly because there was a strong friendship built up over years between Kirk and Spock. In Star Trek, Into Darkness, the scene had almost zero emotional effect when Spock had to watch his friend Kirk die...these two ‘friends’ barely knew each other in this alternate Star Trek timeline. In fact, it felt really cheap that they even tried to pull a reverse Spock-Kirk death scene, almost like they were trampling on something sacred.
Here is another problem I just heard on another review. We are told that the frozen dudes in the drones are 300 hundred years old. But, that would mean that they were frozen in 1995.
” She is Carol Marcus, who will have a fling with Kirk and have a son, and then go off and invent the Genesis device with her son in time for the Wrath of Khan. “
Right. You are much better informed. I should have done a bit more research. Just jotted down my feelings of dislike after seeing it.
We’re not going to get the perfect movie so we have to take what they give us. That said, I won’t get my hopes up too high when I eventually see this thing. The scene about the suicide bomber will bother me.
I'm making a list of JJ Abrams fans, reading between the lines, I'm wavering on adding you, I'm not convinced you are one of his biggest fans.
That would be a safe assumption.
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