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Techrights Advises UEFI Forum to Withdraw ‘Secure’ Boot Support
TechRights ^ | 26 May 2013 | Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Posted on 05/28/2013 9:20:00 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 05/28/2013 9:20:00 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; stylin_geek; ...

2 posted on 05/28/2013 9:20:17 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
I won't buy a board that has that crap on it.

/johnny

3 posted on 05/28/2013 9:21:30 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

You need to know this—in case I ever have a question about it—LOL!


4 posted on 05/28/2013 9:22:43 AM PDT by basil (basil --Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: ShadowAce

I just had to have our techies do an end-run around this in the BIOS because so long as it was in place they could not get the machine to stop wasting 5 minutes each morning trying to boot from a non-existent CD disk.


5 posted on 05/28/2013 9:25:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
If you can't do what you want to do with your property, and it has a lock on it that the manufacturer won't remove... it's not your property.

Screw that. I'll spend my money elsewhere.

/johnny

6 posted on 05/28/2013 9:27:22 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That is also my opinion.


7 posted on 05/28/2013 9:29:03 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I won't buy a board that has that crap on it.

Good luck with that one! UEFI has been on every board manufactured since 2008. It will soon replaced the traditional BIOS, and I, for one, am excited about that.

The problem is with the actual mechanism of 'secure boot.' If you don't have the hash used to create the secure boot portion of the UEFI boot processor, you can't modify it. If you can flash your UEFI processor, you can do whatever you want to it. That's the beauty of the GNU licensing platform.

Problem is that since Win8 requires secure boot, you're stuck using it, and as I understand it, Win8 actually creates the secure boot sector on the UEFI processor and locks it. That's the ultimate issue here. Use Secure Boot all day long, but don't lock it or otherwise force us out of it. It has a purpose, but since it's been compromised and hijacked by Micro$oft, they want to get rid of it altogether.

8 posted on 05/28/2013 9:29:41 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I have zero experience with UEFI—doesn’t it have a boot order? Get rid of the CD in the boot order.


9 posted on 05/28/2013 9:29:48 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: rarestia
UEFI has been on every board manufactured since 2008.

Incorrect--I bought my current machine in 2010. It does not have UEFI on it.

10 posted on 05/28/2013 9:30:50 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

It had a boot order but the options were greyed out.
Could not choose any option other than Boot from CD
while the UEFI Secure Boot was still in place.


11 posted on 05/28/2013 9:32:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Gotcha. That truly sux,


12 posted on 05/28/2013 9:33:18 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I would also think that "secure boot" means NOT booting from CD, rather than forcing to boot from CD/DVD.

But what do I know? I'm just an IT professional with over 30 years experience.

13 posted on 05/28/2013 9:34:36 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

It might not be enabled, but it’s on there. It’s part of the integrated architectural plan used in every PCB maker’s tool shop across the world. If you don’t have it, then you’re using a mobo modified post-process by the manufacturer or an OEM using old reference layouts.


14 posted on 05/28/2013 9:34:45 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

It’s not on there. I’ve checked.


15 posted on 05/28/2013 9:35:23 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

What brand mobo do you have, just out of curiosity?


16 posted on 05/28/2013 9:36:17 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

MSI. It’s an MSI GT680R laptop with a corei7 Quad-core CPU.


17 posted on 05/28/2013 9:37:45 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

My apologies, I thought it was a desktop. I don’t believe laptop reference layouts are affected by the UEFI standard quite yet.


18 posted on 05/28/2013 9:40:20 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
I do loves some black market boxes. It's sad that people seeking freedom have to resort to that.

/johnny

19 posted on 05/28/2013 9:40:34 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rarestia

Ahh—gotcha. I haven’t purchased a desktop in years.


20 posted on 05/28/2013 9:41:27 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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