What do you see when you look through a microscope? Dots in front of your eyes? Oh, wait a minute, they are actually swimming around in the fluid. Must be an optical illusion - the devil made them do it...
Posted on 05/04/2013 5:04:29 PM PDT by rickmichaels
It is ironic that you keep trying to insult me by calling me a liberal, when your own behavior is so utterly liberal. You love quackery and pseudoscience too much to be a conservative. Your nutty statements would be right at home in any social studies/humanities department of any college. You not only want to endanger the health of your own kids, you don’t care how many other kids you also endanger—just like a selfish liberal. The intelligence level of just about everything you have said is comparable to anything said by liberals Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Rosie O’Donnell, Barbara Lee, Hank Johnson, etc. I’ll bet you still have found no shred of scientific evidence to support any of your belief in quackery, not that lack of evidence has any effect on your belief.
I could go on, but I will just finish by saying that you can’t credibly accuse others of being liberal when your own behavior is so extremely liberal. I honestly believe you would feel more at home at a less conservative website, one where quackery and wacky beliefs are more welcome.
I don’t get this - I wasn’t vaccinated against measles and mumps as a child - no one was - I had them, recovered, the way everyone else did. Since when are they fatal?
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I was in a car accident once and had some minor injuries which quickly healed. Since when can car accidents be fatal?
Not a good analogy. Everyone I have ever known has had these illnesses, and I have never heard of one death - I have known people killed in car accidents. My grandfather, to begin.
I’m without all of those vaccinations, and I’n not dying in agony.
In fact, its the people that receive the vaccinations that have the shorter life spans.
Damn I hope you can do better than that!
Its the people that get all of the childhood illnesses that live 90 - 100 years.
In fact? From where do you pluck this fact? Better hope that there is not a reoccurance of smallpox any time in the near future.
I’m curious as to why you call them”ignorant”? Parents trying to protect their children and they don’t trust the government agencies are ignorant?
Because you choose to educate yourself about chemicals the government wants to force you to inject into your children, you’re “odd”. Lol.
People also say you’re “odd” if you think you can protect your family better with a gun better than the government can.
And if you believe in God, then you’re odd also.
I guess I’ll just be odd.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1960277,00.html
This debunked study, in essence, stated that there was a causal link between the MMR vaccine and autism.
Parents trying to protect their children = GOOD.
Parents not trusting government agencies = GOOD (there have been and are many things that government does wrong).
Parents who are misled by folks such as Jim Carrey and Jenny McCarthy = NOT GOOD.
There may be some good and rationale reasons why parents may choose not to have their kids get the MMR vaccine — basing that decision on a mistaken belief that it is a proven fact that it can cause autism is not a good reason.
There have been numerous “studies” that have been proven to be entirely bogus and intended merely to advance the beliefs of certain agendanistas (almost exclusively liberal/progressive such as “global warming”). I just caution people to have a “trust, but verify” attitude.
I’m unaware of the “quackery” of which you write. I simply observe others and make up my own mind. I don’t need a liberal elitist like you throwing around a fancy title, whether they exist or not, to compel me to do things. I keep telling you that my kids arent endangering anybody. If others are vaccinated then they are, according to you, safe.I don’t take my kids around immunocompromised people. Nobody should, whether they are vaccinated or Unvaccinated! Why do you think hospitals regulate ICU visitors, respiritory visitors, etc. according to age? They aren’t regulated according to vaccine schedules. Right now the government will have you believe that gun owners are quacks. I’m not getting rid of any of my guns. Society is telling me that my religion is quackery, yet I’m not giving that up either. I noticed that you didn’t address the gubmint funded research. Maybe something is sinking into your oh-so-better-than-everybody-else’s brain because I have XYZ diploma and you don’t.
I didn’t know that chicken little’s name was Mark.
The quackery is rampant on the internet--sites like Age of Autism, whale.to, mercola, "Natural news" (Mike Adams), etc., are all anti-science anti-vax websites. Since many of the things you have said sound like they were lifted directly out of one or more of those sites, I'm certain you are familiar with them. The purveyors of those sites know exactly how to manipulate people. They promise perfect health. They promise fantastic cures for uncurable diseases. They pretend to care deeply about your health. They try to convince you that they're all about defending you against all the greedy pharmaceutical companies and the government and all those others who just want your money. They count on you being scientifically illiterate, so that they can snow you with big words and really convince you they know what they're talking about. They can claim to reference peer-reviewed literature, because their intended audience has no clue where to find peer-reviewed literature, much less how to read it to see what it *really* says. And, despite the strength of their cries against "greedy big pharma", they seem to really want your money, always selling useless stuff or soliciting donations.
By not having your kids vaccinated, you endanger them, you endanger kids of other misguided parents, you endanger kids who are too young to receive the full set of vaccines, and you endanger anyone who has an immune system variant that prevents them from responding adequately to vaccines. Some diseases are more dangerous at certain ages. Pertussis might manifest as an annoying cough in your teenager, but if your teen visits the neighbor's new baby, that baby could die. The immune compromised are not just confined to hospitals--they might not even know they are immune compromised until they're exposed to a disease.
Back when my son was born, there was no meningitis vaccine. One of my friends, who gave birth a few months before I did, went to get her post-partum check and mentioned to the doctor that the baby would not wake up. The doctor told her to bring the baby in immediately, which she did. Because we were military stationed in Europe, the doctor arranged to have a MedEvac flight come to pick up the baby to take her to a hospital in Germany. She died while the plane was coming to get her. She was a month old. If she had lived, it is very likely that the meningitis would have left her with permanent brain damage.
Clearly, you don't take the threat of disease seriously, and you fall hard for quackery. Yes, I know that quacks have a knack for making people think they really care--sociopaths are *very* good at manipulating people through emotional appeals. I know that I don't put on a big show of caring the way they do; I stick with the facts and present them as objectively as possible. I also do not say anything that I haven't fact-checked. And, as I've said before, you are perfectly free to peruse the medical literature for yourself and prove me wrong. I can't help but notice that while you keep calling me names, you have yet to actually find any evidence to refute a single thing I've said. BTW, the medical research database can be accessed at www.pubmed.org--just type in a few key words and hit enter, it's almost as easy as Google. Many of the articles are free to download and read.
Consider this: if I were merely trying to brag about my education to try to make everyone think I'm better than them, I wouldn't bother taking the time to fact check and explain things in language that I attempt to make understandable. I try to teach people, because I think it's horrible the way quacks exploit and use people with no regard for their health. Quacks cannot hoodwink people who understand the scientific method.
As for government funding of research--there is actually a constitutional case to be made for it. The Constitution does specifically say that the government should protect intellectual property so as to advance the arts and sciences. For the most part, government funds basic research that does not have an immediate commercial application. Pharmaceutical and biotech companies probably spend more on research than the government, but they are looking for a return on their investment, so they don't fund much basic research. Private organizations often give grants to people for studying very specific topics. Since I'm a basic researcher (that is, I study life processes at the molecular level), my work is funded by the government. In my experience, research--even basic research--is typically funded through a variety of sources.
I suppose next you’ll be lauding the elimination of DDT in Africa, and blaming the resultant millions deaths from malaria as simply collateral damage.
I know from past threads that Editor-surveyor does not believe that microorganisms exist. His/her gullibility towards quackery is, as I have observed, nearly completely refractory to any facts or logic.
I’m fascinated by the phenomenon that causes a small minority of people to outright reject solid scientific evidence in favor of quackery and woo. It’s a real public health problem, one which begs for more study so that the root causes can be understood and eradicated. I suspect that it is a matter of psychology more than intellect—and we still understand so little about the function of the human brain.
What do you see when you look through a microscope? Dots in front of your eyes? Oh, wait a minute, they are actually swimming around in the fluid. Must be an optical illusion - the devil made them do it...
>> “I know from past threads that Editor-surveyor does not believe that microorganisms exist” <<
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You don’t know anything! You’re nothing but a crank shill for the med mafia.
I ran a water quality compliance lab for three years, where we documented daily the count of coliform organisms in a liter of the effluent of our five treatment plants. I assure you that I know exactly what exists.
You haven’t the slightest idea what “science” even is.
Why do you constantly insist on making a fool of yourself with your false assertions?
I see that your ‘jesus’ was an effeminant sissy that wore women’s blouses.
I Thank Yehova that Yeshua is nothing like that!
It’s good to be grounded in reality. (you’ll never know)
I suppose that next you’ll be admitting that you’re demented?
When have I ever commented on DDT?
Why do you venture into abject insanity constantly?
So, Monty Python’s “Holy Grail” is an historically accurate documentary?
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