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Last rhinos in Mozambique killed by poachers (not RINO)
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 30 Apr 2013 | Aislinn Laing, Johannesburg

Posted on 05/01/2013 5:46:16 AM PDT by kimtom

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To: goat granny
“.. Your remark is somewhat silly...”

The good news is that elephant populations are thriving in areas of southern Africa after years of hugely successful conservation, following the banning of the much despised ivory trade. Conservationists in some areas are now faced with a new challenge: overpopulation. Scientists and conservationists in Africa and globally believe that there are three solutions: translocation, culling or contraception, but there is no one solution which can solve problems of overpopulation immediately, and is problem free and humane.
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Culling draws strong criticism from all quarters and is no longer extensively practiced. A moratorium on culling has been in place in South Africa since 1994.[ A decade later elephant populations have doubled in places such as Kruger Park to over 13000.] According to Allafrica.com, a 7% increase in numbers has conservationists very concerned not only for the vegetation, but the problems associated with elephants wandering outside of the park to surrounding communities, in search of food.

according to Melissa Wray, courtesy of Kruger Park Times and Science in Africa.

61 posted on 05/01/2013 9:15:27 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: karnage

Not quite. Socialist Tanzania did a pretty good job for a long time preserving its big game animals.

How? By allowing legal hunting - which I believe it still does. Kenya, which outlawed hunting in 1976, saw its herds devastated by poaching.


Demand for ivory is so high now that 25,000 elephants were slaughtered last year alone. And this years slaughter rate is even faster than last years. Trying to meet the ivory demand with legalized hunting would still lead to the elephants extinction.


62 posted on 05/01/2013 9:16:13 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

“..are too few rangers and too many poachers. ...”

I am sure politics has a role.
But you are right.


63 posted on 05/01/2013 9:17:15 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: Ditter

With so much real stuff to concern ourselves with, even giving rhinos extinction a second thought is beyond my imagination.


God’s creation isn’t “real” enough stuff to concern ourselves with?


64 posted on 05/01/2013 9:18:43 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

99.9% of all the species that ever existed on this planet are extinct.


65 posted on 05/01/2013 9:19:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: chessplayer

God is in control of all of his creations. At least that is what we believe in our house.


66 posted on 05/01/2013 9:21:07 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: cripplecreek

So what is your solution? My money, American blood?

It sure as hell ain’t gonna be your bravery stopping it.


Shove your insults up your ass.


67 posted on 05/01/2013 9:22:25 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: skeeter
There ought to be big game hunting trips, with poachers as the game, available.

The short answer is that there are.

The long answer: a neighbor couple went on several safaris and became good friends with a farmer in Africa. He suggested they plan a longer stay. Their last trip, they extended their visas twice and managed to spend 9 months in the bush. Meat hunting for the farm workers, culling operations, backing up PH apprentices. Because they'd be ranging miles away from home, the farmer took them to the district warden as soon as they collected their bags. His emphatic instructions: 'If you see any poachers, shoot them!'

68 posted on 05/01/2013 9:23:53 AM PDT by kitchen (Make plans and prepare. You'll never have trouble if you're ready for it. - TR)
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To: chessplayer

Coward. Why are you here while all the poor Rhinos are dying? Don’t you care at all?

If I cared as much as you claim to care I would do something real. Guess we know how much you care, coward.


69 posted on 05/01/2013 9:25:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree, Africa is a hell hole and there is nothing we can do about it. I have friends who left South Africa because it became unlivable.


70 posted on 05/01/2013 9:32:21 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

I’ve heard that Botswana is pretty decent.


71 posted on 05/01/2013 9:34:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: kimtom
Sad

I've seen a rhino in the wild...once,in Tanzania.A truly majestic...and scary...creature.Sad doesn't begin to describe this event.Ten bucks says it was Chinese interlopers who paid bribes to crooked officials for a mining license and on the weekends hunted game from helicopters.It's in Asia where rhino horns are believed to have medicinal properties after all.Asians are willing to pay serious cash for rhino horns.

72 posted on 05/01/2013 10:51:57 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: kimtom

We need to make RINOs extinct, not Rhinos.


73 posted on 05/01/2013 11:24:20 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’m remembering a fetching little pygmy rhino girl at the San Diego zoo who cadged a lot of popcorn and bananas from visitors by batting her eyes at us.. Had to have a zookeeper on the scene to prevent visitors from feeding her.

I am one of those people who actually prefer animals to humans. Destruction of wild beasts is a crime against God, who created them all.


74 posted on 05/01/2013 11:30:38 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: Gay State Conservative
“...I’ve seen a rhino in the wild...once..”

Even in zoos, a powerful beast.

It will be a terrible day if all that is left will be a few sickly animals caged.

“...It’s in Asia where rhino horns are believed to have medicinal properties ..”

Sounds a bit backward, for such a “progressive” country.

75 posted on 05/01/2013 11:44:35 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: cripplecreek
I have friends and relatives that take trips to Africa. They go to fancy lodges in beautiful places and are treated like royalty. They hunt or go on photo excursions and try to stay away from where the African people actually live.

I read a book recently “The Lower River”. UGH! The filth, brutality, ignorance and squalor was hard to take.

76 posted on 05/01/2013 12:09:14 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

You can still have a great trip in Zimbabwe as long as you put it out of your mind that the leader thinks of you as a filthy european and keeps his people in crushing poverty.

None of that compares to the plight of the poor Rhino. /s


77 posted on 05/01/2013 12:15:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
Do you remember back a few years when 2 African tribes were warring on each other? The Hutus and the Tootses (sp) where at war with each other and we heard daily that the Hutus were chopping up the poor little Tootses with their machetes. I was heart sick over the fate of the poor Tootses until one day they gained the advantage, found their machetes, and started chopping up the Hutus. I stopped caring at that point about what happened to either tribe. Now I am supposed to get all weepy over the rhinos?
78 posted on 05/01/2013 12:28:13 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Yeah that was Zimbabwe formerly known as Rhodesia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia


79 posted on 05/01/2013 12:31:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
We knew some white Rhodesians who moved to Texas from Rhodesia but not until after they were ambushed by a gang of black Africans who ended up wounding the father and killing a 6 year old child.

Two of the best dogs I have ever had were Rhodesian Ridgebacks so something good has come from there.

80 posted on 05/01/2013 12:44:23 PM PDT by Ditter
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