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7 Surprising Reasons Why Americans Aren’t Prepared for What’s Coming
Survival Sherpa ^ | 3/13/12 | Todd Walker

Posted on 03/12/2013 6:00:02 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: berdie
But I guess most “fresh” fertlizer has to be cured for a year or so before becoming useful.

I use fresh horse manure in my raised beds. The plants love it. Chicken manure definitely needs to be decomposed, and it's wise to let cow manure sit for a while or you'll end up with toadstools everywhere.

141 posted on 03/13/2013 4:51:23 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Sarajevo

I’ve never used horse manure. So this is interesting to know.

Since the store bought chicken manure fiasco I mentioned, I have chickens an cattle that produce a more than adequate supply of fertilizer.

As a novice to the practice of fresh fertilizer in the beginning I made quite a few near fatal errors. I didn’t have toadstools in the garden...but it looked I had planted my garden in the middle of the grassy pasture. I nearly tilled it under that year, but was finally able to get most things under control. Some of the more delicate veggies didn’t make it. They just burned up.


142 posted on 03/13/2013 5:14:04 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie

LOL We all learn some lessons the hard way..Horse, goat, sheep and probably a few others can be plowed under without waiting, but my neighbor had cows and he piled up cow manure for the following year....but cow pancakes are sloppy like mud pies....they would just drip off a shovel if real fresh....(I think) :o)


143 posted on 03/13/2013 5:52:15 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: berdie

If there ever is a bomb, I want my house to be ground zero. The idea of shooting a child to save my food store is not too appealing. Adults are a whole different matter..:o)


144 posted on 03/13/2013 6:40:05 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: editor-surveyor
The only ‘meltdown’ that was notoriously promoted in the past 50 years was Y2K,

Well, there was that little business about the cold war, nuclear holocost, etc. that really started the whole "survivalist" thing.

145 posted on 03/13/2013 7:01:55 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: goat granny

Absolutely, you need to let it dry out before making the chicken tea. I should have mentioned that. I don’t wait a year though. And you’re right about chickens, the pee and poo. They only have one opening, a cloaca.


146 posted on 03/13/2013 7:08:37 PM PDT by ladyjane (For the first time in my life I am not proud of my country.)
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To: goat granny

“I want my house to be ground zero”

I totally agree.


147 posted on 03/13/2013 7:09:52 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie

After reading..that reply may have come out completely wrong, lol.

I meant my house..not yours.


148 posted on 03/13/2013 7:12:20 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Iron Munro
It’s quite another to grow enough vegetables and other crops to live on between harvests. Or to bring home enough wild game to live on.

Vegetables are pretty easy to grow. Canning/preserving them can be learned. Not everybody has room enough to grow enough, but if you do I highly recommend it. It may take a year or so to maximize your efforts but you will not regret it. I have 3000 sq ft gardening area that supplies enough produce for a family of four, many relatives and I sell to a local market also.

What do I grow? It's easier to list what I don't grow.
149 posted on 03/13/2013 7:16:35 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: goat granny

I keep twenty hens in a coop and use the deep layering method. I also use cat litter under their roosting position. No ammonia, no smell and no flies. Just plenty of fresh eggs that feed a lot of hungry people.


150 posted on 03/13/2013 7:32:35 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: jy8z

If you use wood shavings (the kind sold for horse bedding at feed stores)instead of cat litter the shavings will absorb moisture, keep down smell and you can clean it out when needed for your compost pile.


151 posted on 03/13/2013 8:03:29 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: jy8z
Vegetables are pretty easy to grow.

I have been trying to learn to garden as part of a plan to cope with a potential disaster. Over the last few years I have planted a lot of vegetable - mostly tomato, pepper and zucchini. They will do well to start with and look nice and healthy. The blossoms set and baby vegetables start to grow. Then one by one they start to look sick and eventually die off. When I pull the plants up the roots are almost gone and what is left is all gnarled and knotty.

The local nursery said it is nematodes and that there is almost nothing that can be done by the home gardener to alleviate the problem. Commercial growers can purchase control chemicals not available to backyard gardeners which explains how this area can sustain a large number of commercial vegetable farms.

The nursery people advised me to try container gardening using newly purchased bags of soil and to throw the old soil out after one year as it will probably become infested.

But that wouldn't solve the problem for me - buying bagged potting soil will cost as much as just buying vegetables and isn't exactly a solution for self sufficiency.
There must be a way to deal with the problem but I haven't been able to find it yet.


152 posted on 03/13/2013 8:08:20 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: warchild9
Sports is a diversion that maintains people’s reactions and perceptions of the world on the same level as fourteen-year-olds.

Not to mention the misguided perception that the team's success = their success. eg "We" won!!. How do you think "we" are going to do this season"

153 posted on 03/13/2013 8:11:47 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: Tammy8
The cat litter is only used under their roosting positions. Deep layering/litter methods use wood shavings.
154 posted on 03/13/2013 8:16:58 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: jy8z

I guess I am still confused why you would use cat litter, why not use shavings under roosts too? I am not being critical, I really want to know how/why.


155 posted on 03/13/2013 8:23:12 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tammy8

I have a 12’ by 12 ft coop for the twenty hens. On the back wall I have five nests. Over those five nests is a shelf with several inches of cat litter. Their roost is spread out 5 inches above and wall to wall along that shelf(they poop a lot while roosting). The eight inches of wood shavings on the floor take care of their daytime business.


156 posted on 03/13/2013 8:37:44 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: Tammy8

I forgot to say cat litter immediately absorbs the moisture, reducing the flies.


157 posted on 03/13/2013 8:40:53 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: Tammy8

I forgot to say cat litter immediately absorbs the moisture, reducing the flies.


158 posted on 03/13/2013 8:41:14 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: jy8z

Thanks, I have just never heard of using cat litter- do you use a certain kind? Seems there would be an issue with some kinds if they ate it.


159 posted on 03/13/2013 8:48:19 PM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Tammy8

I haven’t had a problem with my little laying ladies eating the cat litter in the five years that I have been using this method. I usually use the cheapest kind that Wally World or Dollar General has. It has been really effective in keeping flies to a minimum. I hate flies in South Texas in the summer.


160 posted on 03/13/2013 9:04:09 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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