The Best Conservative Movies of 2012

American Thinker ^ | 01/14/2013 | Jack Cashill

[Dave W]

Silly and embarrassing.

[Bratch]

Plus, there's that whole parents-being-murdered-by-a-man-with-a-gun thing.

[Bratch]

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Lincoln 88

Republicans haven't looked this good on celluloid since, well, forever. The movie focuses almost exclusively on their struggle to overcome Democratic resistance and pass the 13th Amendment -- with all the skullduggery such fights entail.

To its credit, the movie does explore the liberties Lincoln took with the Constitution during wartime, but my purist friends make a mistake in thinking the Constitution favored the South's position. To deny a class of people liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and, on occasion, life itself and to still expect the protection of the Constitution is to rather miss the point of our founding documents. Q 46, C 42.

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[Oztrich Boy]

I was willing suspend disbelief and grant the premise of the movie, but VAMPIRES LIVING IN DAYLIGHT turned me off.

I hate it when they change the characteristic of vampires. I want them to be like Dracula.

Actually Dracula (Original version) and other early vampires were perfectly comfortable in daylight. The sensitivity to sunlight was invented for the film Nosferatu for plot reasons.

[Sam Gamgee]

Argo was good but the time given to Carter to absolve himself of blame made me really want to throw up. As for Lincoln, the real person in my estimation is really a mixed bag. I can't but feel sympathy for the south and outright outrage for the drunk on power Republican do gooders who wanted to punish the south.

[Neoliberalnot]

Place it adjacent to 650,000 rotting humans and show me the equivalence.

[Persevero]

“Place it adjacent to 650,000 rotting humans and show me the equivalence.”

The one does not justify the other.

[Neoliberalnot]

Keep in mind that most africans were far better off here than in their home-land, regardless of slavery.

You did not address the issue I posed. Slavery was a bad thing, but all parties wanted it—the africans who sold them, the north and their ships that moved them, and maybe 10% of the south that had them and mostly treated them well. What drove the north mad, was the fact that the south was making so much money from their rich agricultural production.

[central_va]

We know slavery was not his primary motivator because he said so himself:

"I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views. I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free.[17]"

Consider yourself educated on the matter.

[Persevero]

“Keep in mind that most africans were far better off here than in their home-land, regardless of slavery.”

True; life in Africa was nasty brutish and short it would seem.

“All the parties wanted it,” except the slaves of course.

I hold the black Africans who sold their neighbors just as guilty as the horrible slave “owners” who tortured, killed, raped and subjugated people once they “bought” them.

I recognize that some slave owners were kind and can imagine I’d rather have been their slave than living in a bush on the low end of the scale in some nasty tribe.

However, slavery in the U.S. was and is inexcusable, and indefensible. With the exception of indentured servitude, which we are not talking about here.