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CES 2013: Industry Source -- More Than 3 Out of 4 Enthusiasts Reject Windows 8
Dailytech ^ | January 11, 2013 6:48 PM | Jason Mick (Blog)

Posted on 01/12/2013 9:06:53 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Dude, I teach Microsoft and Unix operating systems, servers, high-end networking, etc. to business customers. I started off teaching Unix (we were telneting into a single SunOS Sparc 20) while still in the USAF BEFORE Linux and BEFORE Windows NT. I got Linus Torvalds email and source code in 1994, and compiled my first Linux (terminal only mode box) on an old 486. When I retired from active duty I got my MCSE and moved to NT only because of our customer’s needs and wants. Since then everyone has gotten Windows Active Directory domains, Exchange mail servers, SharePoint sites, and every user machines is a Windows box running Windows apps, all history now.

I actually taught a Linux class last year for the first time in 10 years. I used Redhat Enterprise 3 and Fedora 16 and 17, Ubuntu and some older Free BCD because I still love it! Still, it is not what the business world wants and my money is in the business world.

And end users? You’ve got to be kidding! I can teach some IT people Unix/Linux, but most think it too hard. End users just want Microsoft because that’s what they grew up on. Heck, business customers don’t even want Apple, and that just works, as they say.


21 posted on 01/12/2013 10:46:45 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: dhs12345

8 is horrid; if 9 is just more of the same MS will not see me “upgrade.”


22 posted on 01/12/2013 10:49:20 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
LOL! Free BCD is of course Free Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD)!

40 years in computers and I still cannot type.

23 posted on 01/12/2013 10:52:21 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have tried all of Microsoft’s Windows over the years and loved XP. Upgraded to Windows 7 two years ago and really like it. Then got a lap top a few weeks ago with Windows 8. I hate it!


24 posted on 01/12/2013 10:54:31 AM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Alas Babylon!
OK,....

My entry to UNIX was AIX,...after slugging it out with multiple upgrades for Customers moving from MFT, MVT to MVS on 360's and 3090's.

Mixed in some VM - 370's.

Business World has VERY DEFINITE requirements.

Windows is fine for most folks....till you connect to the INTERNET....then it is a new GAME.

Businesses can handle it.

The newer Linux distros ,...like Zorin,....have gone the extra mile and are friendlier to those who like the Windows style of GUI.

Got my Daughter and grandson set up with running it....no problem.

25 posted on 01/12/2013 11:00:55 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

PDP 11-70 running DEC Ultrix circa 1976...

Initial boot load 3 on, 3 on, 3 on, first 2 on (7776) ;-)


26 posted on 01/12/2013 11:12:15 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: dhs12345

Just like Star Trek movies with the original cast.


27 posted on 01/12/2013 11:28:01 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Alas Babylon!; All
Just upgraded my monitor to 28" so I could get the Fonts even Bigger....still have lots of typos.

*******************************

Running a Distro based on Fedora 18 ...out of Australia,...Kororaa....

Like the multiple workspaces for serious browsing,...cut and paste of news stories,....

Really runs smotthly with my AMD FX 8120,...8 Gbyte Ram and ASUS Sabertooth mobo.

Also have a Hot swap rack like this:

Installed in all my cases to enable quick switching while trying various distros....

28 posted on 01/12/2013 11:31:26 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Alas Babylon!
I am totally ignorant about DEC stuff.

But is was good.

29 posted on 01/12/2013 11:33:32 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Typo,,,,

is should be IT


30 posted on 01/12/2013 11:37:24 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Alas Babylon!

Just downloaded PC-BSD yesterday,....I am gonna take a look at it.


31 posted on 01/12/2013 11:40:56 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Olog-hai

“Why bother fixing what is not broken. Development should focus on OS integrity rather than just producing new operating systems for the sake of it.”


They are fixing what is broken from their viewpoint (not from the user’s).

The point of W8 is to totally lockdown the OS so that places like India and China can’t pirate it the way that they did with XP. And to create a walled garden where they can nickel and dime the users and developers to death just like smartphone walled gardens have been so successful at accomplishing.


32 posted on 01/12/2013 1:22:55 PM PST by RatSlayer
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To: oh8eleven

I put Win8 on my son’s 3.5 y/o Dell, which he gave me for Christmas. The old desktop is still there, and some programs run both as apps and as programs. I have to decide how I want files to open, but once set, it is set. I get to God mode from the tiles, but it still does everything the same way. I need to download PDF reader as a program because I can’t print from the app.


33 posted on 01/12/2013 2:52:29 PM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Very happy with Ubuntu.


34 posted on 01/12/2013 4:09:28 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Dutch Boy

Very true!


35 posted on 01/12/2013 4:11:15 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Modern stuff is better. Much better. I used to hate the distributed apps. Someone would launch a major resource hog app and a simple word processor program would crawl and hesitate. Email was a new thing and cool.

I got into a huge debate with coworkers about which was better: a PC or the current DEC system (at the time). That was in 1990. Ken Olsen was famous for saying that people wouldn’t want a PC. How wrong he was.

36 posted on 01/12/2013 4:24:01 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Typo,,,,

is should be IT

Depends on what the meaning of "is" is! :)

37 posted on 01/12/2013 9:22:08 PM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: meyer

For those stuck with Win 8, and want that good old win 7 look back, Classic shell is what you want and it’s free.

Here is a Youtube video about classic shell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMEx7Yr57Po


38 posted on 01/13/2013 7:34:02 AM PST by DAC21
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I advise anyone considering to try Windows 8 to go for it.

The trick to surviving the transition is to install CLASSIC SHELL (free!), which takes you straight to desktop on boot and gives you a start menu. You never need to mess with the “metro” interface at all with this!

http://www.classicshell.net/


39 posted on 01/13/2013 10:25:37 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Moltke

Just bought a new laptop with Win8 (no choice)

I was pulling my hair out one hour in. Told my wife I was taking it back.

Played with it some more and began to “get it” but it is still aggravating. Might still take it back.

Man, what a headache. Warning to others, if you plan to use the laptop touchpad instead of a mouse... be prepared to toss your new laptop out the window.


40 posted on 01/31/2013 1:40:18 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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