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Secure boot: Microsoft shows up Linux
IT Wire ^ | 14 December 2012 | Sam Varghese

Posted on 12/14/2012 7:02:28 AM PST by ShadowAce

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1 posted on 12/14/2012 7:02:33 AM PST by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 12/14/2012 7:09:32 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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3 posted on 12/14/2012 7:10:23 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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I give it a couple month before some hacker finds a crack or workaround that allows users of other operating systems to “spoof” the cryptographic keys and make secure boot think it’s actually loading Window’s 8


4 posted on 12/14/2012 7:16:25 AM PST by apillar
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IMHO, anyone making the PC boards with this Secure Booting, they should be boycotted. Even Apple allows for Linux both under the former PPC and Intel platforms. I use to do multiple partitions in Apple but now using VMWare to run Linux.


5 posted on 12/14/2012 7:20:32 AM PST by CORedneck
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Microsoft makes me sick, and I work as a MS systems engineer. They’re due to be smacked down, and I have a feeling both Win8 and Server 2012 are going to do that. People are not ready nor do they want touchscreen desktop OSes, and forcing it on them is not the way to go.

The idea of putting a touchscreen server OS on the market is absolutely retarded. MOST datacenters are lights out, meaning no personnel on the floor during business hours. Remote KVM solutions like those provided by Avocent are not prepared for touchscreen use and thus will cause a problem. Is Microsoft going to acquire some KVM solution and sell it as a market brand for people who want to use 2012? How about remote system access utilities like HP’s iLO, Dell’s iDRAC, or IBM’s APM? You’re talking about increasing bandwidth requirements, end-to-end touchscreen capabilities, and myriad other issues with these types of deployments.

I’ve already recommended to my leadership teams that we finish upgrading to 2008 and stay put until Microsoft either pulls their head out of their ass or a better alternative comes around. Messing with UEFI in such a way as to render a machine locked down to a specific OS goes against OS freedom.


6 posted on 12/14/2012 7:23:15 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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Enjoy the PC you own, now.

In the future, you will only be able to rent.

I find it ironic that so-called “open-source” Linux has been used in the Mobile/Tablet world to pioneer the Secure Boot lock-down of the hardware you bought, and think you own.


7 posted on 12/14/2012 7:23:25 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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I won’t buy any hardware that locks me into Windows. It’s my hardware I own it...


8 posted on 12/14/2012 7:29:26 AM PST by desertfreedom765
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Can I get on the ping list?


9 posted on 12/14/2012 7:29:44 AM PST by expat1000
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But when it comes to using the media, the Linux community is in grade 1. Or probably in kindergarten. It works in a highly insular manner, preaching to the converted, and forgetting that there is a vast, thirsty audience out there, looking for good computing software.

My gosh - the Linux community is the Republican Party! Who knew? :)

10 posted on 12/14/2012 7:32:47 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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Linux is “clunky” and has limited application. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to use Linux in any serious application. About like using Com.....64.


11 posted on 12/14/2012 7:37:37 AM PST by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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You’ve been added. Welcome Aboard!


12 posted on 12/14/2012 7:40:41 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Please do some research and learn what you are talking about before spouting off some obviously uninformed and incorrect comment.


13 posted on 12/14/2012 7:43:01 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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I think you are a decade behind on knowledge about Linux...


14 posted on 12/14/2012 7:46:25 AM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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Linux is “clunky” and has limited application. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to use Linux in any serious application.

All of the semiconductor design industry runs on Linux- both desktop and server. Almost all of the server industry runs on Linux.

15 posted on 12/14/2012 7:46:25 AM PST by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: CORedneck

I think the article is funny, how they blame the victims for this astounding exercise of power by Microsoft to dictate a proprietary and closed system to control the very boot of a computer.


16 posted on 12/14/2012 7:55:19 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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Is it a mountain or a molehill?

I see the future and it doesn’t include a MS as big as today. They’re really under pressure. Cloud Drives are just a step on the road map to true Cloud OS. Windows for the PC is becoming stagnant ... how much more innovation can they come up with? Windows 8 out and out sucks ... the Metro interface is kind-of stupid. I immediately uninstalled Windows 8 and returned it to Best Buy saying it was a piece of junk.

The real money is going to be in small device OS’es, and Android is far a head of MS in that game, so is Apple’s IOS.

Linux is heading for a big jump in the next 3-8 years as Valve Inc is spearheading a Linux Gaming revolution. MS will even start losing console market share as Valve Inc grows.

The future is a bare bones OS that boots and OS from off the network.


17 posted on 12/14/2012 7:58:31 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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rEFIt works great for OSX. They’ll come up with something similar for this nonsense by MS.


18 posted on 12/14/2012 8:02:13 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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I *NEED* to run multiple operating systems. If MS prevents that, they become an enemy.


19 posted on 12/14/2012 8:05:10 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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Linux is “clunky” and has limited application. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to use Linux in any serious application. About like using Com.....64.

I could say you're nuts, but I'll refrain and just let you know I was thinking about it.

Computing is not limited to playing games and cerfing for porn and MS and windows are still pretty well much a toy as far as real computing goes, such as scientific, corporate, transactional and scalable computing and huge database engines.

20 posted on 12/14/2012 8:09:13 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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