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Survival in a Suburban Area without Power (vanity)
Nov 1, 2012 | Self

Posted on 11/01/2012 3:33:35 PM PDT by BobL

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To: jughandle

Absolutely it works. I use the green Stabil... for marine use. Lasts longer although it is more expensive.


101 posted on 11/02/2012 9:36:51 AM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

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102 posted on 11/02/2012 2:28:24 PM PDT by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama is weak, and is a worse human being than F.D.R., on multiple levels.)
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To: DannyTN

“Ours looks something like this only wider... “

Nice. I see the blower is 120 Volts. Can the fireplace run without it (i.e., in a blackout)?


103 posted on 11/02/2012 4:32:29 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: BobL

I lived in a deep forest for the past 30 years.

At least one good wood stove that will burn all night without tending.

Keep well-house and all plumbing from freezing (thermo-controlled heat lamps; insulation, seal windows, heated pipe wrap)

Get ample firewood (I use 6 long cords per season) and the tools to handle it: two wheel barrows, roofed area for split wood storage, a good 12 hp splitter, two axes, a steel splitting maul, hatchets, Stihl Chain saw 19-22” chain blade.

Install a water tank indoor (mine is 300 gal and stands about 75” tall, a pump to fill it which takes its feed from the main water supply ( use a my well). All of thes systems can be rigged to go on or off regulated by pressure settings.

Install near the dwelling a good hydrant with the feed connection beneath the freeze depth line. Have next to the hydrant spigot a roll of water hose which will enable fire control to whatever you don’t want to burn.

Stores of medicines and madical first-aid kit and tools, learn how to suture.

A .45 cal for every shooter; 12 gauge pump for those who will safely handle it, a .22 LR, auto reload rifle, .222 cal rifle, 30-30 rifle.

Check out my page.

Inquire for details if you’re interested.

Regards R.


104 posted on 11/02/2012 7:25:57 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: BobL

A cat, a blanket, and two comforters. It got so hot the cat bailed on me.


105 posted on 11/02/2012 7:35:53 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: maine yankee

Awesome, gonna make one. Great tip/


106 posted on 11/02/2012 8:01:44 PM PDT by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: BobL

Big Buddy Safe Indoor Propane Heater

Big Buddy Indoor Propane HeaterModel MH18B of the Big Buddy indoor safe propane heater keeps hearts focused on needful tasks, and knuckles warm and agile during the cold winter months. Indoor propane heaters can also be your main source of heat during power outages.


107 posted on 11/02/2012 8:04:26 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: BobL

Ours doesn’t have a blower. So yes ours can.
My guess is that the blower doesn’t have to be on for that one to work either.


108 posted on 11/03/2012 7:23:03 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: JoeProBono

Just bought a Big Buddy this morning!!!

Thanks, tested it out. Took a few minutes to figure out how to use it, but it is AWESOME.

I’m so glad that I started this. I was pretty clueless. My conclusions are Big Buddy and wood pellets (but not available in Houston).

I also bought a couple of Carbon Monoxide alarms. Could not get them to fire with Big Buddy...they just burn too clean.


109 posted on 11/03/2012 11:03:18 AM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: DannyTN

“Ours doesn’t have a blower. So yes ours can.
My guess is that the blower doesn’t have to be on for that one to work either.”

Concur. I just bought a Big Buddy (propane heater). I was getting nervous when I saw that it has a 6 Volt fan that runs on 4 D batteries or plug-in adapter. It wound up that the fan is OPTIONAL. So I suspect that you’re right - one can run the fan if one wants to...but it’s not necessary. The fan is nice, but NOT required.

I’m just sensitive to needing 120V power, as I’ve researched water heaters extensively, and found that the ONLY home water heaters that do not need 120 Vdc are the old, conventional, gas water heaters. Anything beyond that (i.e., anything that costs over $600) requires 120 Volts to operate.

Thanks for the info!!


110 posted on 11/03/2012 11:14:58 AM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Overtaxed

“A cat, a blanket, and two comforters. It got so hot the cat bailed on me.”

Smart dude...I hate cats, but my neighbor has one that just LOVES us. It’s causing my brain to split in half.


111 posted on 11/03/2012 11:16:05 AM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Rudder

OBVIOUSLY you take this stuff seriously. Congrats. Being suburban, I’m limited. I still dream of being like you.


112 posted on 11/03/2012 11:18:26 AM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: BobL

;-{)


113 posted on 11/03/2012 11:30:36 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Lurker; BobL; JRandomFreeper; All
Believe it or not those Coleman type propane and gas lanterns kick out quite a bit of heat themselves. I’ve found that one will raise the temp in a bedroom a good ten degrees or so.

Be careful with that. One of the times I was at Sturgis, a lady died from Carbon Monoxide poisoning using a Coleman Lantern for heat--in a tent.

You may wake up shivering if you go to sleep without a fire, but you'll likely wake up. If you have a fire going in a fireplace all night, I'd recommend having someone stand fire watch as well.

It's a disaster--your sleep schedule is going to be messed up anyway.

114 posted on 11/03/2012 11:55:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Propane doesn't pour out the Carbon Monoxide like the Coleman fuel stuff does. But I have a rule NOT to go to sleep with a flame going. I can be Cooter Brown drunk (we do have parties around here) and the rule is so ingrained that it just won't happen.

I've help carry and bury 2 that tried to stay warm through the night with lanterns in campers on hunting trips.

Cold I can cope with. Dead is harder to overcome.

/johnny

115 posted on 11/03/2012 12:05:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BobL

I live in the Lakes region of NH. Pellets here are cheaper than dry hardwood and cleaner.

I have a pellet stove, a wood stove, a generator, required around here, and a 500 gal propane tank. Lights go out generator goes on freezer, refrigerator , stove, and range plugged in I am go to go. Next step whole house generator.


116 posted on 11/03/2012 12:25:35 PM PDT by Little Bill (A)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“dead is harder to overcome”. LOL. I’m going to remember that one.


117 posted on 11/03/2012 12:32:37 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: BobL

Hehehe...that’s what cats do.


118 posted on 11/03/2012 12:37:09 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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