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Walmart --- Can They Be Stopped? (vanity)
October 10, 2012 | me

Posted on 10/10/2012 8:09:47 AM PDT by Beowulf

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To: 1rudeboy
But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.

You Karl see eye to eye, brothers. LOL.

On the Question of Free Trade

Marx hated protectionists.....like you.

161 posted on 10/11/2012 6:39:16 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
There ya' go, again. What is it about "in this revolutionary sense alone" [emphasis added] that you fail to understand?

Marx believed free trade would hasten the social revolution. So do you, in fact.

A Marxist quoting Marx to establish that I am a Marxist, and that he is not. Just fantastic.

162 posted on 10/11/2012 6:43:38 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I agree and we are in a trade war with China and we need to fight back.


163 posted on 10/11/2012 6:44:11 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

And now we’ve come full circle: opposing the construction of a store isn’t a very effective way to conduct a trade war.


164 posted on 10/11/2012 6:46:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Reagan's best-known protective policy was a tariff placed in 1983 on imported motorcycles at the request of American icon Harley-Davidson. The tariffs were to last five years, but the company's comeback proceeded so quickly that it relinquished the final months of import relief. Moreover, the tariffs encouraged Japanese rivals like Honda and Kawasaki to build or expand factories in the United States and create still more jobs for American workers.

Ronald Reagan Trade realist.

165 posted on 10/11/2012 6:50:01 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Good Lord. George W. Bush placed tariffs on steel, Barack Obama placed tariffs on tires. Does that make them protectionists also? If not, why not?


166 posted on 10/11/2012 7:02:44 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Amagi

***I liked my bucolic little America the way it was when I grew up and I do not like the change***

When we first moved from the inter-mountain region of the west to the Ozarks we found the nice little 1950s town still stuck in the 1930s.

The city fathers fought tooth and nail to keep this town 20 years behind all other local towns for their own economic reasons. In High School, my brother did a research paper and found all the kids in his class were kin to everyone else in the class, by blood or marriage, except us.

It was not till the 1970s, when the last of them died off, did the town begin to modernize. It is still a small town with much better schools, and infrastructure. They were way behind other local towns getting internet.

In the past, if you wanted something important you had to travel 100 miles to a major city-in OKLAHOMA.

Now, we have the same goods and services along with really modern hospitals must 25 miles away.

What brought on this change when this area was in the economic stranglehold of the Chicken Processors who kept agricultural wages at below national levels? A Mom and Pop store called WALTON’S 5&10 cent store. He had a chance to buy several bankrupt BEN FRANKLIN stores and he took the chance, then named it WALMART.

If Joe’s 5&10 had taken the chance to buy those stores we might have JOEMARTs on every corner and everyone would be reviling them.


167 posted on 10/11/2012 7:39:58 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: cuban leaf

PS, Liddy is a convicted felon.

What he says are the words of a criminal, disgraced former FBI agent, and disbarred lawyer....all rolled into a third-rate radio blowhard.


168 posted on 10/11/2012 12:29:02 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: cuban leaf

Fine, if you want to live in the Nineteenth Century, grow a beard and join the Amish. The rest of us have to A.) live somewhere, because population isn’t shrinking, and B.) need to have convenient places to shop with the variety and low prices the invisible hand provides and we demand.

Mind you, your bucolic little county wouldn’t get but a fraction of the tax revenue, (and concurrent lousy services, etc.), they do as a prosperous upscale suburb. I suppose if you still want to live out your fantasy of being a rugged frontiersman you could always move to Alaska.


169 posted on 10/11/2012 12:30:08 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

The article is not about Liddy. His comments about “The good old days” inspired the actual topic of the article.


170 posted on 10/11/2012 12:54:09 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Did you read the article? He agrees with you, generally speaking.

BTW, I moved from my home of 45 years, Seattle, to a 12 acre farm in rural, central Kentucky. I successfully got away from the mess. I mean, I can’t see another living soul from my house. It’s in the corner of 9 acres of corn field on the finger of a plateau about 80 feet above the valley below. And the nearest main road is two miles away. Dead silence here in the winter and you can see by the light of the Milky Way at night.

Our chickens lay 10 eggs a day, they are free range, and we have goats to clear our woods, plus a quarter acre garden. Wild turkeys and deer regularly wander by our house. and we are 15 minutes from two different wal-mart super stores and a Lowe’s and Tractor Supply. We’re 50 minutes from a Sam’s Club.

Oh, and it is a bicyclists and motorcyclists paradise.

I successfully went to a place with the comforts and conveniences of the 21st century but the positives of the 19th century lifestyle. It can be done, but it takes risk. And faith in the Lord.


171 posted on 10/11/2012 1:00:42 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Oh, and I work in IT. I have a one hour commute, about the same as many folks in Seattle, except my one hour commute takes me 62 miles. And it’s like “racing” the entire trip. I love it!


172 posted on 10/11/2012 1:02:50 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: 1rudeboy
We agree with Reagan, he agrees with Marx, and we're the bad guys.

Beyond funny!

173 posted on 10/11/2012 2:37:28 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

That’s interesting - I have been to several WalMart stores near very high-end communities - and find the same disappointing selection of meats.

And at least here in the LR/NLR area - their meat prices are higher than everyone else.

Now - Sam’s Club has nicer meats than Wal-Mart - at lower prices (but that’s a “club”).

I really wish we could get Costco here - Every one I have ever been too has been far nicer than the Sam’s in the same area.


174 posted on 10/11/2012 3:03:18 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

So many US companies/manufacturers have been run off that it can be a challenge to find much of ANYTHING made here any more.


175 posted on 10/11/2012 3:05:21 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Hey, haven’t seen you for a while. Help me out, math nerd, what’s my “inflation” rate in my comment #123?


176 posted on 10/11/2012 3:13:06 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: cuban leaf

Your life sounds very similar to what we did 9 years ago! And my husband is also in IT!!!!


177 posted on 10/11/2012 3:45:53 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: 1rudeboy

You’re paying over 29% for the “extra” service you enjoyed at the old store.


178 posted on 10/11/2012 4:20:59 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Just damn. And I love those guys, they are Punjabi (and not Muslim, before one of the regular bozos does Google and thinks he’s being clever).


179 posted on 10/11/2012 4:26:26 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: cuban leaf

Sounds nice.

My problem is that I would go stark raving mad being in such peace and quiet, hehehe. I need to be around a lot of activity. Where I live its right down the incline and across the river to downtown, where the restaurants, theaters, concerts, etc. are. Plus I’m frequently gone when touring and need to be within a half-hour of the airport, which depending on the traffic on the Parkway, I am. I get my meats from Tom Friday’s butcher shop on the North Side, my seafood from Wholey’s and Benkowitz’s in the Strip, and everything else at Bottom Dollar, Foodland, and Aldi’s. I avoid Giant Eagle like the plague because of surly help and excessively high prices. Oh, Tojo gets all his shopping needs met at Petco and PetSmart. All within minutes of where I am. On nice days downtown is a 15-20 minute walk away.....and the Monongahela Incline people usually let me take my dog up and down the hill.....

I’m not crazy about suburbia, either, with their McMansions that are architectural mortal sins, soccer moms, and NDSAP-inspired HOA’s.

But if being out in the country works for you, great.


180 posted on 10/11/2012 6:41:29 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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