sounds like this guy... i hate them because they are poorOur socialized society has created a new class of poor.
The middle class, who do not qualify for any programs, but have substantially less expendable income than the ‘poor’.
In order to start a business in most professions, the regulatory costs nearly mandate a $250k income in order to clear about a $75k income, if one is lucky, and with substantial risk of greater liability.
Meanwhile, the poor who give up on ownership can live twice as well with less risk than the middle class.
The poor might reorient their relationships to more favorably receive program benefits, and I don’t envy their predicament, ....but I see so very many poor, with new homes, new cars, part time jobs, and spare time, while I observe the middle class driving 20 year old economy cars/trucks, working overtime, paying for insurance and still in debt with medical and older homes not presently in compliance with modern codes.
I don’t see any middle class going to midnight movies, but I do see lots of ‘poor’ class partying from sundown to sunup, sleeping till noon, with middle class not partying, waking before dawn and turning in after they get home from work.
“If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered.”
-Proverbs 21:13
There are other verses in Proverbs and elsewhere in God’s Word that say essentially the same thing, in various ways.
So: yes, of course, with God’s Word as my instruction and Jesus as my example, I have sympathy and empathy for those who are truly poor.
~having said that~
There are many definitions of poverty, and just because the government *defines* someone as “poor” doesn’t mean I have to agree with their definition, or think it wise to give them handouts.
I suspect that’s what you’re getting at.
There are people on this forum who sacrificed, who worked hard, some are vets, some near retirement, some neither of these.
They are poor now. They weren't always, some had their own businesses, but with this economy it's hard to bounce back if you have certain strikes against you like age, destroyed credit, health setbacks or the self-sustaining anchor of on-going joblessness.
Still others in this nation have not been taught how to build or cultivate opportunities. They didn't have mentors, they weren't exposed to entrepreneurial spirit.
Despite the American mythology, it isn't something anyone can do just because they're in America.
Since you have it all figured out, you tell us what to do or just SHUT UP.
When I was about 7 or 8 years old I asked my father if we we poor. You see, I had reached the age that I realized how we lived vs how most others did. Here is exactly what my beloved father told me. I have never forgotten:
“I have been broke many times in my life, but I have never been poor. Being poor is a condition of the spirit, of the soul and has nothing to do with how much money you have or do not have”.
I'll be 47 on Friday and his words still work for me...
MOgirl
Yes in the sense that they are deprived of the sense of free will and freedom and become servants early on.
no in the sense that they become leeches and parasites on TJE taxpayer.
“Am I the only one who feels utter and total contempt for the so called poor? This is the most free, by far, any country in the history of the world, and yet we have these scum-sucking parasites that have not taken advantage of it, instead they cannot take care of themselves, their children, nor their elderly.
When I see a poor person, I am filled with disgust. How can this individual(or group of individuals) live like this and not feel that they have the opportunity just in front of them that the rest of the world would kill for?”
Well, sir, welcome to the Ebeneezer club.
But — it might be worth your while to hone a sharp instinct so that you may distinguish between the “deserving poor”, and those “undeserving”.
There is a clear distinction to be drawn between those who warrant contempt for situations of their own making, and others who have, through no fault of their own, fallen on hard times.
There, but for fortune...
You need to be poor once. That’ll fix you up.
I feel sorry for everybody including m’self, does that count.
But I feel real, real sorry for the authors of stupid vanities consisting of undeveloped thoughts.
Being poor does not necessarily equate with being a freeloading parasite. There are many reasons for being poor, and believe it or not many people prefer being poor to running in the modern rat race, and they do not mooch off the system. Now the fat assed, cheeto munching, dregs of society that do nothing but work the welfare system, I share your contempt for.
But I have never, at any time, been as “poor” as you appear to be, sagar.
When the SHTF, we now all know we can count on you to be utterly useless, and a burden to everyone.
Please respond to any posted reply on your lame, trolling thread.
For the bums on the street who are mentally ill or physically unable to work I would say, “yes” to feeling sorry for them.
Everyone else who is able-bodied but unwilling to work because they are lazy and lack a work ethic I would say, “no.”
But government rewards the lazy both poor and rich.
“Halleluyah I’m A Bum” (1928)
by Harry “Mac” McClintock
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uKbIkYGsIg
Which poor? There are a lot of people who are poor in this country, sometimes through no fault of their own.
If you try to take care of a sick parent and the medical bills spiral out of control, you can end up losing your house and your job.
You could be a housewife with kids whose husband turned violent after being laid off and find yourself with no place to stay and no income.
On the other hand there are crackheads and bums. They can even be President of the US. These people can be jettisoned from the planet.
The majority of “the poor” that I see are not stupid. They are however too lazy to bother even making an attempt to clean up squalor that they live in. They are too lazy to fix themselves and their children nutritional meals despite receiving ample funds from the government to do so. They are too lazy and impatient to make an appointment to see a health care provider when they are feeling poorly. Instead they call 911 and want an ambulance to take them on a ride that they will never pay for.
They will tell you that they don't have enough money to buy the medications they were prescribed despite admitting to smoking three packs a day and being a drug addict or alcoholic. They feel perfectly justified about stealing what they want from people who they feel are more fortunate than them. Some of them would kill you for the $40 they could sell your wedding ring for.
I could go on and on and on. I knew exactly who Sagar was talking about when I read the post. I treat "the poor" very compassionately while on the job, because I am not in the business of judging people; my business is helping people. But the people that expect my help the most frequently are completely irresponsible and expect everyone else to take care of them. When a responsible person is dying from a heart attack... there is a pretty good chance I will be busy tending to someone who is expecting us to arrange their second or third ambulance ride of that day so that they can get some more attention and free meds from the emergency room. When I suggest that maybe their housemate who has a car could take them all hell breaks loose because they “know their rights”.
To all the self-righteous who just went on the attack... when Sagar and I are thinking of “the poor” we are not thinking about the amount of money people are getting by on.
What a disgusting person you are.
Stuff *does* come back to bite all of us. Are you SURE you want to even go there with this line of thinking??
Which poor, those that actually try or the freeloading majority that now clog our various welfare programs?
And BTW, learn to write in English. Illiteracy in the effete is especially ugly.
Empathy for the unfortunate is a good trait. As is disgust for those who can but will not work. Life is not so simple.
When Sandusky and you molested the boys how did that make you feel ?