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Are trade deficits a good thing or a bad thing?
econdataus ^ | 21 June 2012 | me

Posted on 06/21/2012 11:06:18 AM PDT by moonshot925

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To: Former Proud Canadian
Sorry, I don't follow you. Chronic, continual, large trade deficits must be paid for in some way. Unless you can truly enslave another country, you must pay for your imports from that country.

Imports certainly must be paid for; I was objecting to those who claim that the United States is borrowing money [financing] to do so. It isn't.

The government doesn't import goods, citizens do. And they either pay cash or borrow the money from the local bank and pay it back out of their earnings. The money China lends the U.S. government does not pay the bills for our imports from China. It funds the operation of the government.

They are two separate issues.

I live near the Canadian border. Now, I can buy my groceries in Buffalo, for example, and though I have a personal trade deficit with the supermarket, there is no addition to the national trade deficit. If I decide to cross over to Fort Erie, Ontario and buy my groceries there, I still have a personal trade deficit with the Canadian grocer, but now, interestingly enough, I've added to the national trade deficit.

Canada has financed nothing. I paid for it all.

If the government is truly worried about the trade deficit [it isn't,] it would set about to lower the costs of doing business in the U.S. so as to lower domestic prices. All trade takes place because of prices.

61 posted on 06/22/2012 2:51:19 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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You are correct, the US government is not borrowing money to pay for imports, yet.

The US is able to pay for imports by exporting goods and services and because the US dollar is the world reserve currency. Billions of dollars have been printed or credited to overseas entities to buy imports. Most of these dollars remain overseas, used by virtually every nation on earth to trade with each other. Isn't it great to be an American?

Unfortunately, this free ride might be coming to an end. There are too many dollars overseas and there are too many foreign nations jealous of America's position and the seignorage it enjoys as a result of owning the world's reserve currency.

The creation of the Euro was, in part, an attempt to horn in on some of the seignorage the US dollar enjoys. The Euro experiment will end in a miserable failure and, ironically, might result in propping up, at least temporarily, the very US dollar it was supposed to replace or at least rival.

62 posted on 06/22/2012 4:22:05 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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Unfortunately, this free ride might be coming to an end.

I, for one, wish it would. The short-term benefits have been great, but, in the long-term, the dollar's reserve status has allowed our government to indebt us and expose us to the risk of heavy price inflation. Bad moon rising.

63 posted on 06/22/2012 5:17:09 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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That is the problem, isn't it? Reserve status of the dollar has given America an incredible gift. Your politicians have squandered it.

There should have been a constitutional amendment to balance the budget. But, who needs the constitution anymore?

64 posted on 06/23/2012 4:17:20 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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Reserve status of the dollar has given America an incredible gift. Your politicians have squandered it.

That's one thing politicians are good at, squandering.

65 posted on 06/23/2012 7:27:45 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Unfortunately, this free ride might be coming to an end.

I agree and, ultimately, it will have been a good thing. In my opinion, gold should be the international reserve currency but, despite the recent hype, I don't expect to see it until we've endured true misery.

Which we may.

66 posted on 06/23/2012 2:28:17 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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