Posted on 06/05/2012 1:21:45 PM PDT by moonshot925
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>> “But we make stuff” <<
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What?
We couldn’t even make the steel members for the new SF Bay bridge that’s under construction.
Or the cars for BART, or the solar panels for Obama’s ‘green’ energy.
Whistle on by the graveyard.
Hitler might have helped Japan produce jets and other wonder weapons? It could have gone any way. If the war was fought by Todays America—we would have caved in 1946.
In 2010, China manufactured $1.922 Trillion worth of goods with 120 million workers.
In 2010, the USA manufactured $1.855 Trillion worth of goods with 11.5 million workers.
The USA manufactures things like locomotives, ships, gas turbines, automobiles, aircraft, missiles, semiconductors and pharmaceuticals.
China manufactures cheap household items and stuff at Walmart.
The golden gate in ‘48.That was a saying back then before the bomb.They may have taken Hawaii but supplying it would have been untennable for any length of time.We would take it back but I’m sure all the civilians would have been butchered.Had the japs invaded Australia all hell would have broke loose in north africa where the majority of the countrys troops were serving.As it stood there was enough trouble as it was.Cant say I blame them either.Thank GOD we whipped them.
I’m pretty sure there’s no way a Doolittle-style attack could succeed due to the sheer weight of the atomic bomb—they would run out of fuel long before they got there.
Hell, they wouldn’t have been able to take off from an aircraft carrier, period.
“That sort of thing doesn’t scale-up well.
You have no idea what that attack involved, do you?”
Do you have any idea what was involved with the Enola Gay? I’d call that scaling down, not up.
“The ONLY reason US manufacturing was so dominant and prosperous after WWII was the fact that most of the manufacturing capacity in the rest of the developed world was destroyed by the war itself”
American manufacturing was already dominant BEFORE WWII.
In 1939, the USA produced over 75% of the world’s oil, 40% of the world’s steel and 52% of the world’s automobiles.
Actually it’s dubious that the Japanese could have actually captured Midway had they won the naval battle.
They didn’t do very well in the very limited number of OPPOSED amphibious assaults they tried in WWII; they were repulsed in the first assault at Wake, for example. They almost were beaten when they landed on Corregidor.
Everywhere else they just walked unopposed on to beaches, for the most part.
Midway was chock-full of very angry, very well armed, very well dug in pre-war Marines; it was VERY difficult to get in the Marines prior to the war because the service was so small, and so many guys wanted to because of the Depression.
The Japanese didn’t really bring enough troops to overcome the Midway defenses.
Actually it’s dubious that the Japanese could have actually captured Midway had they won the naval battle.
They didn’t do very well in the very limited number of OPPOSED amphibious assaults they tried in WWII; they were repulsed in the first assault at Wake, for example. They almost were beaten when they landed on Corregidor.
Everywhere else they just walked unopposed on to beaches, for the most part.
Midway was chock-full of very angry, very well armed, very well dug in pre-war Marines; it was VERY difficult to get in the Marines prior to the war because the service was so small, and so many guys wanted to because of the Depression.
The Japanese didn’t really bring enough troops to overcome the Midway defenses.
I referred to that quote a few days ago here, and was informed it was bogus. My modest research indicated it is indeed.
“Winston Churchill once said ‘The history of man is war.’”
What does that mean to you, that war and imminent war is all that ever happens? Because normally historians weed out the less interesting parts. If peace is less interesting, so be it, but it’s there. Even if it’s only a matter of time before the next war, there is time between wars.
“The Founding Fathers knew that they would always have to be on a war footing”
Nice try. Notwithstanding the hopes and dreams of Hamilton rhey didn’t even believe in a standing army.
“new big powers like China and Russia”
They aren’t new.
“Now we are back to worse than before the War of Independence”
It’s not worth arguing with someone who can seriously declare such a thing.
Homework assignment: What was the total tons of steel produced in 1940 vs. 2010 in the USA. Second question: What are tanks and ships made out of?
By the way, I fully understand the unreliability of and suicidal nature of extra-long-range PR stunts like the Doolittle raid. Certainly we wouldn’t have been eager to risk something as expensive and important as a nuke on such a run. But don’t pretend like Hiroshima and Nagasaki were like the massive campaigns against Munich, Berlin, Dresden, Tokyo, etc. We’re talking about a single bomb, here.
If Olog-hai is wrong we have a strong vibrant economy and a huge manufacturing base and we remain at peace while "wasting" money on defense. However if you are wrong we will be conquered and sent to the dust bin of history so a few could make a quick buck under the guise of "free trade"..
I'll take my chances with the industrial base intact..
Funny an article about midway which proves that an industrial base is critical to freedom is being molested by a free trader. LOL.
Starting with a B-25, working your way to a B-29, is scaling “up”.
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