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Is Farming Brain-Dead Chickens More Ethical? (Matrix-style Chicken Factories)
DVICE ^ | Feb 24, 2012 | Evan Ackerman

Posted on 02/25/2012 12:37:19 PM PST by DogByte6RER

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To: DogByte6RER

The chicken is just a machine that converts grain into tasty meat protein. Rather than the disturbing process described in this article, why not concentrate on developing a more efficient machine for the conversion? The proteins that comprise meat can be grown artificially with all the chemical (and nutritional) properties of the “real thing” (if still somewhat lacking in some of the flavor subtleties). Spend the effort on refining that process, not in developing some diabolical machinery like this that still uses living tissue, regardless of how lobotomized (or “Democrat-ized”) it is.


41 posted on 02/25/2012 2:05:25 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Irenic

We’re getting our first batch of chickens this spring. The missus has been working on me for a few years now. I’m drawing up plans for the “chicken tractor” now. It is portable so as to move over the fallow garden areas in preparation for next year. We’ll see. :{)


42 posted on 02/25/2012 2:06:30 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Debeaking has been standard practice since (at least) before WWII. It wouldn’t suprise me to learn that it’s been around for hundreds of years. It has nothing to do with ‘going beserk’.

Where do you think the phrase ‘pecking order’ came from?

It came from observing chickens and how they naturally interact with the weaker chickens.


43 posted on 02/25/2012 2:07:25 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: DogByte6RER
Most liberals/socialists/communist are brain dead, can we farm them?

The democRat party is an advertisement for Soylent Green.

5.56mm

44 posted on 02/25/2012 2:09:28 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Balding_Eagle
I worked on chicken farms in South Jersey as a kid in the late 60s into the early 70s. All the chicks or pullets we would get delivered had their beaks burnt flat so when they got older they would not kill each other. Back then the chickens ran free in a large room. Chickens are cannibalistic and will attack each other. Once a bird receives a head wound that is bleeding all the other chickens just keep on pecking that spot.
45 posted on 02/25/2012 2:18:42 PM PST by 4yearlurker
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To: M Kehoe
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46 posted on 02/25/2012 2:21:11 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

I had some really crappy quality chicken tonight. Now I know why.

I saw his right after pitching my chicken in the garbage.

Now, I am gonna go puke.


47 posted on 02/25/2012 2:23:02 PM PST by dforest
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To: gorush

I wonder if a chicken thread like similar to the gardening threads would be acceptable?

We are riding the edge of giving it a try but knowing some good first-hand experience sure would be nice!

I started to research and it seemed so wide open on opinions and such that it was overwhelming!

What kind of chickens are y’all getting? I am not even sure where to start. :p


48 posted on 02/25/2012 2:24:13 PM PST by Irenic
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To: GenXteacher

“Anyone with the slightest bit of concern for the welfare of chickens that are raised to be consumed is brain-dead themselves.”

Wow. Not only do you manage to come off as completely callous towards animals with that statement, but you also manage to insult your fellow man, simply for wishing to be benevolent.

“You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.”—Malcolm S. Forbes.


49 posted on 02/25/2012 2:27:46 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Irenic
gah! like
50 posted on 02/25/2012 2:27:46 PM PST by Irenic
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To: DogByte6RER

Is this some kind of metaphor for Congress?


51 posted on 02/25/2012 2:27:52 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Irenic

Just start off with some white leghorn layers. Get pullets instead of chicks. They should lay for 3-3 1/2 years.


52 posted on 02/25/2012 2:28:56 PM PST by 4yearlurker
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To: Irenic

Our friends and neighbors down the road have a farm with various and sundry critters including many varieties of chickens (which I have baby-sat when they go on vacations). They are a wealth of information and experience. We are lucky.


53 posted on 02/25/2012 2:29:28 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: 4yearlurker; RegulatorCountry

Yes, my father grew turkeys from pullets to processing, they all had to be debeaked.

My mother raised what are now called free range chickens. I remember she tried it without debeaking. It got really ugly and bloody as they grew older, so Dad ended up killing a bunch of them. After that everything got debeaked.


54 posted on 02/25/2012 2:31:03 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I’d say chickens packed into such close quarters that they end up pecking each other to death in quantities large enough to rationalize cutting all their beaks off to prevent it, are going berserk. Pecking order, henpecked, yes they refer to innate behavior. However, broiler chickens typically are not kept alive long enough for such dominance displays to become a problem, outside being crammed into extremely close quarters.

The practice was first performed in the thirties in a university research setting. It was the fifties before it began to be adopted, with breeding stock and not withbroiler hens. By the seventies, modern factory farming methods began to become common, and with consolidation in the industry, it is by far and away the predominant method, outside so-called free range operations, which themselves often actually aren’t.

So, you speak as if current practice is common and accepted, going back more than a genetation, when in fact it isn’t, having been banned in numerous countries.


55 posted on 02/25/2012 2:33:51 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: 4yearlurker

Thanks!
BMfLR


56 posted on 02/25/2012 2:35:24 PM PST by Irenic
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To: DogByte6RER

No, no, no, no, no!!!!!! This is beyond horrifying.


57 posted on 02/25/2012 2:36:50 PM PST by ElayneJ
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To: DogByte6RER

I think we have more and more idiots living in this country that are a growing problem we will soon have to stop ignoring and start dealing with.


58 posted on 02/25/2012 2:38:02 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 4yearlurker

Their beaks were burnt? Like, like a coyote grabbed them by the neck and rammed their beak into a red hot anvil?


59 posted on 02/25/2012 2:40:47 PM PST by ichabod1
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To: ichabod1
Exactly like that!
60 posted on 02/25/2012 2:45:39 PM PST by 4yearlurker
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