Posted on 01/17/2012 8:10:03 PM PST by Kevmo
>>...I haven’t seen any signs of U.L acknowledging this...<<
I wonder if the U.L. will respond to an inquiry as to whether they have/will receive his device(s) for assessment? I’d settle for a monosyllabic “Yes” or “No” to that inquiry.
If “yes”, then false/true verification from the U.L is inevitable. If “No”, then it’s a flat-out lie and there’s no reason not to presume the whole thing is a scam.
Hopefully, someone will make that inquiry and we will know one way or the other soon. I’d love for it to be fully legit, but my expectations remain quite low due to the historic constant of, “if it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn’t”.
I wonder if the U.L. will respond to an inquiry as to whether they have/will receive his device(s) for assessment? I’d settle for a monosyllabic “Yes” or “No” to that inquiry.I'm sure they wouldn't release that information without the approval of the customer. Of course, if Rossi is legitimate, he would have no trouble giving that approval. But, I'm not holding my breath.
My father spent 25 years getting U.L. listing for all sorts of products. If he were still alive, I'd ask him to make a few calls.
I do have the contact info for the (retired) U.L. Engineer he worked with most often (they were good friends), but I'm hesitant to ask him to investigate this on my behalf. Even if he provided me with useful information, I seriously doubt that he would allow me to publicize it "on the record" (since that would be a violation of company policies), and I'm not going to resort to anonymous claims, as Rossi and his fanboys do all the time.
Just for the record: U.L. doesn't care whether a product performs as advertised. They only care about the safety of the device. As long as you can't be hurt or killed by the device under reasonable operating conditions, it would have no particular difficulty being U.L. Listed.
U.L does require unrestricted access to the device being submitted for testing. It can be a prototype, but it must be identical in material and construction as the production version. So, to even attempt to get a Listing, Rossi would have to provide them with one or more gadgets for them to test however they saw fit. Based on everything I've seen Rossi do, he would never allow that.
Just another "Rossi says".
if it’s a scam, bet on Obama and Friend “investing” tons of taxpayer cash on it right before it all blows up.
if it’s not a scam, bet on him blocking it faster than a Keystone pipeline.
Welfare costs for displaced employees formerly involved in the oil, coal and power production and distribution industries could be sufficient to make it difficult for employed folks to pay the taxes to support them.
Rossi's device could very well be OVERPRICED!
>>...Just for the record: U.L. doesn’t care whether a product performs as advertised. They only care about the safety of the device...<<
Well that’s disappointing.
This could revolutionize the economy because of cheap energy. They would be smart to leave it alone and let taxes come out from increased production and commerce. This should also be able to be used for autos, trucks, ships etc. reducing the cost of transporting the items produced. Everything should become more affordable for the average person and low income countries should benefit greatly as well, providing of course that this is real and the government keeps it's filthy, squelching hands off of the thing.
You mean like all of Europe that has fuel taxes 200% of the cost of the untaxed fuel ?
No, I was thinking more like African nations. Dirt poor, no oil to sell, not enough fresh water but plenty of seawater to desalinate and get some crops going.
If you believe government is about doing what’s best for its citizens, then sure. If the goal of government is to keep people in their place, then disruptive technologies are ‘dangerous’ and to be avoided. The mere fact that nuclear reactions occur gives the NRC and their equivalent in other countries a greenlight to establish whatever costly oversight they want — paid for by taxing the product so energy is (coincidentally) not much cheaper than other sources.
Which is what I meant about taxing the crap out of the eCat in wealthy nations to redistribute to poor nations. The eCat could be cheap there and expensive here, right ?
Well, there’s always the smuggling option. ;-) In America’s history, this has been a major source of revenue.
7) and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum ----- or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow,For your information, Ampenergo no longer exists:
It apparently served it's purpose (to provide some phony credibility for Rossi's scam) and has now outlived its usefulness.
You'll probably want to update your rant to include this new information.
7) and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum ----- or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow,For your information, Ampenergo no longer exists:
It apparently served it's purpose (to provide some phony credibility for Rossi's scam) and has now outlived its usefulness.
You'll probably want to update your rant to include this new information.
Thanks for the ping.
That company, Ampenergo, was registered in an office building, sharing its space with a mortgage company, insurance company, and other non-manufacturing businesses. Where is the production of the eCat allegedly taking place?
It looks like the scam is starting to unravel. I guess there’s a limit to how long someone can keep stringing people along before they become suspicious. Even the fanboys would have a couple of doubts after a while.
Where is the production of the eCat allegedly taking place?Just last week, Rossi did a video interview (with "The Most Gullible Man In The World (tm)", Sterling D. Allan) where he claimed to be building a robotic factory in Florida. No evidence has been presented, of course.
It does seem that his lies are starting to catch up with him. We'll see how long the pathological believers hang on as Rossi continues to produce nothing but grandiose claims on his blog.
• Here’s my standard ‘ignore’ post to Johnny B.
This will be my standard post to you that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. You’ve proven you’re just here to harass; you have demonstrated that you are not here to discuss things on a level that Free Republic intended.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2832338/posts?page=51#51
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