Posted on 12/22/2011 7:57:09 PM PST by LucyT
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Maybe the valleys were already occupied by indigenous people, or perhaps any leaders/rulers who arrive first usurped them, and rather than fight over them, the Maya commoners chose to terrace and irrigate which they knew how to do well. One comment was that a word for house was common to the Indians living there now and to the Maya. That word seems to be similar to a word used by the Seminole Indians which I think is chikee (sp?).
Both terms..."trash", and "mutts"...are unneccessarily derogatory.
I've heard/read that severe drought may have helped end Tikal and Copan, but at the same time that they were declining, cities like Chichen Itza were becoming more powerful. The thing is, I thought the northern part of the Yucatan, where Chichen Itza is located, is drier than the rest of the peninsula.
It’s not exactly architecture to dump a bunch of dirt into a pile. Cahokia has the possible purpose of staying high and dry during spring floods, but the Ohio Valley mounds are built in various animal shapes, among other things. The mounds around here were for burials, we’re told, but alas, no human remains are found in them, just pottery and whatnot. Could be that the remains just didn’t survive, but there’s not so much as a tooth, AFAIK.
The PreColumbian Americas were characterized by the same traits found throughout the world — populations boomed, populations busted, populations moved around, people killed one another.
There’s at least two distinct tribal groups in w Michigan, the better known crossed the Lake from what’s now Wisconsin sometime in the last 300 years or so. In the Upper Peninsula, an ‘indigenous’ tribe actually came from what is now upstate NY, relocating on the basis of a shaman’s vision, and when they got there, fighting the previous residents in a struggle known in their folklore as the Rice Wars (that’s the wild rice, not Asian rice).
This is an interesting supposition but there is absolutely no peer review of his thesis anywhere to be found, and the article was badly written. When the original survey was done, why did they get someone from South Africa, for crying out loud, instead of a Mexican Mayanist? I would like to see something more competently done regarding this possible interpretation. And the commenters on the original site are waaaay out there anti-American nut jobs for the most part.
Nah, your Celt from the British Isles precludes that, not that the Scotch-Irish (and thank you by the way for spelling it correctly, “Scots-Irish” just grates on me) are looked upon in any better light outside the south and midwest, lol.
“I am a mix—a mutt—Irish, English, French-Canadian, German and Italian, with just a touch of Native American (Arapaho) for spice. In short—I am an American—been here since 1720.”
Damn, that’s a long time; you were more than 200 years old when Sociable Security came in. You had to wait a long time for that.
Maybe in your eyes, but I don’t find it derogatory. Besides even if it was it’s self-depracating. Which is usually viewed as OK. People are too touchy. Mutt simply means a mixture of nationalities. If you know of a different meaning then you can enlighten this ignoramus.
additional — Daniels states that he’d reached the same conclusion independently.
Has an 1100 year old Mayan site been discovered in the Georgia mountains?
Gary Daniels, Atlanta Road Trip Travel Examiner
December 23, 2011
http://www.examiner.com/road-trip-travel-in-atlanta/has-an-1100-year-old-mayan-site-been-discovered-the-georgia-mountains
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Ping
for a follow-up.
Check out Link at # 93.
Thanks Theoria.
In fact, researcher Douglas Peck has noted that when Spanish explorer Ponce de Leon encountered the indigenous people of south Florida they were not only aware of the Yucatan peninsula and the civilizations that existed there but were able to give him exact navigational headings by which to reach it. This would only be possible if there had been contact between the Yucatan and Florida.
Thanks for the ping, LucyT.
And thanks for posting that link, SunkenCiv & Theoria.
Lotsa links to follow up on in the article so it’s saved in Faves for further perusal. Very interesting stuff. I’m champin’ at the bit for a road trip!
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