Excess Heat and Particle Tracks from Deuterium-loaded Palladium

University of Missouri ^ | May 29, 2009 | Numerous

[Errant]

Anyone interested in the science and status of cold fusion will find these presentations fascinating.

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FYA

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FYI

[BallandPowder]

Powder..patch..ball FIRE!

In before the seagulls. University of Missouri / Navy research... just a bunch of scammers right moonman?

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Keep in mind that they’re discussing Deuterium-loaded Palladium and not a Ni+H2 reaction the Rossi device uses. :)

[darth]

I was the R&D rep for a major aerospace company 20 years ago.

Every lab that I visited including DOE, USAF, and USN, had a couple of experiments in the back trying to understand cold fusion. Such research was kept quiet because of the bad PR. It did not show up in the budgets.

One senior physicist told me, “We don’t understand what is happening, but SOMETHING IS HAPPENING”.

I think the next big breakthrough will be a deeper understanding of the interface between chemistry and nuclear phenomena. I pray that Rossi, et al, are on the right track.

[mountainlion]

The Navy reported small areas of high activity in experiments some time ago. I guess they still have not figured it out.

[count-your-change]

The Deuterium/Palladium is well known. Interesting but beyond that ????.

[Moonman62]

In before the seagulls. University of Missouri / Navy research... just a bunch of scammers right moonman?

I don't see where they have anything in common with Rossi.

[Errant]

The Navy guy in the second video will make you laugh when he starts mentioning the cost of some of the equipment they were using (e.g. $7 for a used power supply from an electronics store).

I'm a wee bit skeptical of Rossi and of anything he's involved with. That said, I wish him luck with his combination of elements but not if his motive is to scam investors. If that's the case, I'm pretty sure he will eventually wind up behind bars. The bad publicity will not help further LENR study though, IMO.

[Larry Lucido]

One of those kids must be carrying a Bible. Probably loaded with Deuteronomy.

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It is a mystery of nature that requires further study. One thing leads to another...

It's surprising how much in the dark we are about how it works and how to control it. At the seminar, they call on "nature having a good day" and "muons from space" required to begin the reaction.

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LOL

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The Movie?

[count-your-change]

Contrast those deuterium/palladium experiments with the Rossi demo.

For example, it was claimed 1.5 grams of hydrogen gas was used and this was determined, it was said, by weighing a gas cylinder of 13,606+ grams.
They used a scale sensitive to one half gram of 13,600 grams and more? Really? And there was a control?

The amount of hydrogen inlet is one of the critical factors in whether the Rossi device was actually self sustaining in heat production yet it is passed over with a before and after comment?

[Errant]

Measurements using a scale like the one I saw in the Rossi video can be affected by simply placing the weight on a slightly different area of the scale. Manual weighing of a cylinder leaves many ways of manipulating the results. And the results of 1.5 grams of hydrogen determined by weighing a gas cylinder of 13,606+ grams was well within the margin of error as you suggest.

[Kevmo]

thanks for the ping, an oldie but a goodie

The Cold Fusion Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles

[Kevmo]

That’s right. The NiH reaction was much more difficult to replicate than the D-Pd. One of the remarkable things about Rossi’s progress.

[Kevmo]

LOL

Thanks for posting & bumping the thread, seagull.

[Kevmo]

the results of 1.5 grams of hydrogen determined by weighing a gas cylinder of 13,606+ grams was well within the margin of error as you suggest.

***I didn’t see a margin of error suggested. Basically, there was very little hydrogen, orders of magnitude less than what it would have taken to generate that much heat chemically. No one cares if it’s +/-1.5 grams of hydrogen when it would have taken 15Kg to produce that much heat.