Posted on 08/17/2011 2:10:18 PM PDT by george76
Where was Putin when this happened? I think he’s gonna have to fire his PR agent.
Agree. The understanding them part should be in understanding how best to kill any of them which are even mildly threatening. That 'it's their territory; we're just visitors' business is complete nonsense. We're mammals long accustomed to being at sea, and especially living by, and in, the shoreline, surfing, swimming, diving, whatever.
You are right. Your last comment gets to a point I was trying to make. More and more you hear these naturalists employed by the government trying to convince everyone that we can co-habitate with sharks and that they really don’t attack humans and if they do, like you said, we have to be aware that we are in “their space.” It absolutely amazes me. I’d like to see some government naturalist tell that to a mother whose son or daughter was just killed and eaten by a shark. That’s not to say we hunt all sharks down and kill them, but if one exhibits aggression near a populated area, it needs to be killed, not understood.
I’d like to see some government naturalist tell that to a mother whose son or daughter was just killed and eaten by a shark.
Even more sickening than that image, is the people who have been attacked and in some cases mauled by a shark, who have been so indoctrinated they still voice the eco-nut groupthink line, as previously referenced: 'it was just doing what comes naturally; I was in its territory, etc.'
The envoro-commies like to say that such deaths in the jaws of predators is painless, due to shock.
Obviously, such bachelor’s children forgot to memo the Russian girl who was alive for nearly an hour as she was being eaten alive by bears.
She suffered the historic fate of all men whan predated upon by large bodied predators. Only gunpowder changed the role of such predators from master to rug.
Had those poor Russians been armed, the bears would be processed into rugs and that family would be alive.
As for the snivel of the author about people moving into the bear’s habitat, had the Russians been allowed to be armed, the bears would have learned to stay away from any human.
In The Yellowstone Park Nature Book, Skinner, 1924, on page 109 describes why wolves were not a problem in America whereas they were in Russia and Eastern Europe. “In America, the wolves are the same kind, but they have learned to their bitter cost that nearly every man and boy carries a rifle.”
As Jefferson wrote to Cartwright, “...let you gun be your constant companion on your walks”.
To the Libtards who support quartering such beasts upon our lands, may they and theirs suffer the fate which that poor father and daughter suffered.
Too many speculations on a gun rights in Russia.
They HAVE gun rights there, including rights to have guns banned in US as an assault weapons.
With some limits they had it under commies as well.
LOL!
“Too many speculations on a gun rights in Russia.
They HAVE gun rights there, including rights to have guns banned in US as an assault weapons.”
They have gun rights in the sense they have other rights, which is to say such rights as the government wishes them to have. In no way do they either have the “Natural Law” history we do, or the Constitutional guarantee of rights under said Natural Law concept.
What they do have is a level government permitting of guns which in America will only found in Obama’s wet dreams - as the following shows:
Permits are only granted after an applicant has undergone complete medical checks, which include, among others, a mental health assessment. Drug, alcohol-abuse and criminal records are also examined.
“The law has clear rules on how to own, store and, most importantly, use weapons. If a person shoots someone when their life has not been endangered by them, the gun-user could face a jail sentence,” says lawyer Sergey Zaynulin.
That commies love gun control is made clear from the statement of this modern, post-USSR style commie:
Alla Glinchikova, from the Institute of Globalization and Social Movements, says that “expanding gun ownership threatens to legitimize criminality and spread violence”.
Does the Waaambulance make home visits in Russia?
Well, these obstacles you mention are not such a big deal.
Medical examination is de-facto about to get a form 046-1 certificate you can get in any hostital you wish. It normally takes a few hours at some $20 and only an obvious psychos who aren’t getting their certificates.
Next you have to bring your certificate to a local police station, they are checking if you have a violent crime record in their database. If you aren’t you have your license in a few days.
99 in 100 people applicants are getting their licenses there.
As for Russian self-defence doctrine it has changed comparing to Soviet one. You still can’t shoot unarmed trespasser but surely won’t face any charges if your health or life are threatened.
I don’t speak Russian, and thus had some difficulty ascertaining the status of CCW permits for Russians.
Would you know if Russians are allowed to carry concealed, if open carry is allowed, and if yes to either question, what restrictions are imposed?
Thanks for any facts you might be able to post, as I am curious as to whether we are still the least restricted nation of gun owners.
Overall, Russia is not close to US in terms of gun rights but it is ahead in a few aspects.
As for standard procedure on getting a license there are some steps:
1) getting a letter from your local psychiatrist and narcologist claiming you aren’t diagnozed as narco or psycho.
2) getting a form 046-1 certificate from any hospital. It means visiting a lot of doctors but mostly formal and their records means nothing to guys deciding in your license with the exception of psychiatrist who spend a few time to find if you are about to make some shooting at work or shopping mall. It usually takes up to a few hours at some $20 to get a certificate in a public hospital. The price might be much higher and time shorter at luxury private clinic. The resuults aren’t recorded in any database. If you have a problem with a psychiatrist in one clinic you are free to try another clinic.
3) making 4 small photos of you for officers to put into your license.
4) to bring all the above to an OLRR division at your local police station with a written application to a chief.
They have 10 days to decide to allow you or not.
It is usually ok if your letters and certificate aren’t fake and you have no recent criminal records.
Thus if you are living in a bad neighbourhood they may demand you to upgrade home security in order to prevent your gun coming to a criminals.
After that you are visiting a formal exam to prove them if you are able to use a gun safely. You are usually given an unloaded AK or semi-auto pistol to assebble and disassemble it and to fire a blank shot after. If you have problem they are usually helping. If you are avoiding stupid things like scratching a nose or ear with a gun, looking into a barrel or pointing it to an officer you are about to pass it. If you are doing they are shouting at you to learn a rules and it counts as you passed it.
Next you are going to bank to pay some $50 fee and getting your “license to buy, carry and store weapons” as they call it. It may be of three types: for self-defence hand guns (or LOA lisence), smooth-bored long guns, rifled-bore guns.
There are some little pecularities in getting one or another but it is not worth to type here.
Your license is valid for 5 years and has to be extended within 3 months before expiration.
Along with a licence you are getting 5 blank permits to buy up to 5 guns within 6 months. As soon as you got one you have to bring it to OLRR to let officers write-off it’s serial number. If your permits are expired or you want another gun within a 5-gun allowed range after 6 months you are going to OLRR to get one.
All written above is about to get a civilian firearms. Military class weapons aren’t allowed under any of three lisences mentioned above.
Anyway, sost shotguns and rifles which arevbanned in US as ‘assault’ firearms are pretty legal in Russia. Considering shotguns and rifles it counts as non-military and citizen legal as soon as it is unable to fire full auto and beyond an artillery caliber.
You can have freely all the folding stocks, pistol grips, detachable mags and muzzle breaks you want.
That makes such an items the most popular civilian firearms there:
http://www.exclusivegun.ru/images/product/29452566.jpg
http://www.exclusivegun.ru/images/product/25467336.jpg
Thus over 10 rounds mags aren’t welcome, it is not that much enforced. External grenade launchers are their single prohibited ‘assault’ feature. It is coming out of the fact it is usually 40 mm which counts as artillery which is only military legal.
So their laws are very soft on assault rifles and shotguns but it is very different on handguns using conventional ammo. That is considered as ‘professional’ or police firearms while LOA lisence covering only versions modified for using ‘civilian ammo’ such as rubber bullets and chemical agents like tear gas or light nerve agents.
Anyway, it is still not an obstacle for one who really want to have a conventional handgun in Russia.
There are thousands of small private companies providing security services for businesses and government bodies. They do employ guards who are allowed to have both ‘civilian’ and ‘professional’ firearms including conventional handguns as their working tools. If you have a good friend who owns one of companies like that and he or she willing to hire you as a part-time guard you are lucky. It may be formal as well if you are a very good friends so you won’t be busy to attend job.
As for a consealed carry or not I’m not sure if they have any regulations on that.
Hunting firearms are usually carried with mags detached in special bags of boxes while in cities or towns, handguns are usually consealed carried.
lisence=license, bags of boxes=bags or boxes
While I am impressed with your ability to find those Russian gun rules, and thank you for so doing, I must ask what of the rules you posted are “ahead in a few aspects”?
From requiring a long list of approvals to submitting to the tender mercies of a psych exam because said psych will determine your likelihood of being a murderous nutter (they can’ make such predictions) to gun registration - all are seemingly behind us.
Might I ask where they are ahead of us?
Well, they are soft on assault guns as I told.
Also all the rules mentioned above aren’t enforced in most rural areas, so there are a lot of gun freaks who aren’t busy to abide it including local law enforcement overlooking it most of the time.
Overall, US is way ahead YET. Gun rights are a very hot topic in Russia and there are a lot of groups fighting to expand it.
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