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Army amputee ejected from roller coaster, dies
MSNBC ^ | July 9, 2011 | NBC News

Posted on 07/09/2011 10:38:50 PM PDT by Immerito

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To: repub4ever1
This is clearly a case where he should not have been allowed on the ride. He wouldn't have met height requirements. He used very poor judgement and the ride operator should have made him get off.

Supposedly a family member added a comment under the article:

You want answers to questions? I honestly don't know why I am even reading the comments because half of you are so insulting it's pathetic. To the people praying for my family, thank you- we appreciate all the positive thoughts and prayers.

Fred Appl- His right leg ended just above his knee and he didn't have a left leg at all. It's not possible that he met basic height requirements though I don't know what conversation he had with the operators about this because the family member that was riding with him is still in shock and not talking.

To the others---

This was a terrible accident. As his sister, I know what he was thinking getting on the ride- he wanted to live a normal life and not be treated like a freak just because he had no legs. Should he have been allowed on? Not my call. Doesn't change the fact that he was allowed on and thus died. Please have a little respect and imagine if it was one of your family members- if you can't do that then I truly feel sorry for you.

I hate to be cynical about this but was this some sort of death wish where they hoped to collect a ton of money. A family member was on the ride with him. Someone helped him to get onto the ride. Probably the family member. Did the ride operator even realize this guy had amputated legs?

21 posted on 07/09/2011 11:29:09 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I agree on all points.


22 posted on 07/09/2011 11:33:00 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Netizen

My first guess is that no one wanted to insult/offend an amputee that wanted to ride.

Everyone, at least most of us, want to accommodate and encourage those with handicaps.

He was an adult; he wanted to ride; and not being much on physics knowledge I would not have guessed that mostly missing legs would have made him fly out of a shoulder harness.


23 posted on 07/09/2011 11:36:11 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero

There was NO shoulder harness. Plus amputees were given a list of do’s and don’ts before leaving the hospital and high speed roller coasters were on the don’t list.


24 posted on 07/09/2011 11:38:18 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: Persevero
I'm sorry he was terribly wounded in service.

However,he showed very poor judgment getting on such a ride;and the family member assisting him showed equally poor judgment.

Personally,I believe riders should be strapped in like a 4-point racing harness.

But then again, personally,I don't do roller coasters.

25 posted on 07/09/2011 11:46:48 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: Immerito

RIP, soldier.
I am grateful to his service and that he was able to return home to his family where they could put their arms around him (not killed over seas). I am so sorry for their loss - no doubt you begin to heave a sigh of relief that your soldier came home and have no reason to really dread an amusement park. Prayers up for their painful, sudden loss.

A man at my church was hospitalized with something like pneumonia and when he awoke a few days later - he was a double amputee. What a shock. But even from the hospital bed he had a sense of humor about it when the pastor visited -shocking the pastor by saying something about being ‘half the man I used to be’. Well this gentlemen learned to walk with prosthetic legs and returned to the middle east to take donated wheel chairs and prosthetics to adults and children with limb loss. He is quite the example for them.
He tells the story of going on one of those roller coasters that go upside down in a corkscrew motion. When the coaster reached top speed, the little girl seated facing him was staring at him open mouthed - his prosthetic legs had begun to twirl at impossible angles back toward and over his shoulders - when the coaster then flipped through a series of corkscrews, first one prosthetic limb and then the other shot from him pant legs to the horror of the little girl. The sight was so absurd that he began to laugh uncontrollably and as the coaster swept him backward toward the finish line, his empty pant legs rippled at her like wind socks (he says she clutched her own legs at the knees, fearing they too would just blow off, she didn’t know his were prosthetics). When the harness came up she shot from her seat screaming. It was not his intention to scare her or neglect her fear, he was just so shocked himself. Hearing his story - well I guess I had hoped it was safe for amputees to ride.


26 posted on 07/10/2011 12:38:48 AM PDT by ransomnote
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The business owner is between a rock and a hard place in a situation like this. Keep him off, and the headline is the amusement park discriminates against handicapped veterans, and they end up being sued for ADA violations.


27 posted on 07/10/2011 2:16:53 AM PDT by Borough Park
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To: Immerito
What on Earth can be said about a story like this?

RIP soldier.

28 posted on 07/10/2011 2:17:37 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Netizen
There was NO shoulder harnessTrue but the company that operates the ride has some responsibility. They don't pay much to the guys who load the passengers, probably hire anyone who applies. It's not like loading passengers in a bus. Operator will be protected by having liability insurance and continue to hire low level guys to load passengers at low wage.
29 posted on 07/10/2011 2:24:55 AM PDT by tommix2
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To: ransomnote
The sight was so absurd that he began to laugh uncontrollably and as the coaster swept him backward toward the finish line, his empty pant legs rippled at her like wind socks (he says she clutched her own legs at the knees, fearing they too would just blow off, she didn’t know his were prosthetics). When the harness came up she shot from her seat screaming. It was not his intention to scare her or neglect her fear, he was just so shocked himself. Hearing his story - well I guess I had hoped it was safe for amputees to ride.

I hope that the poor fellah seated behind him (or standing below on the fairway), who got two prosthetic legs slamming into his face at 90+ mph, found it as funny!

Regards,

30 posted on 07/10/2011 2:41:58 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: Immerito

I appreciate the man’s service, but when the doc tells you to avoid Russian roulette most people have the sense to not play the game.


31 posted on 07/10/2011 4:18:09 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Netizen

He probably would have sued them for violating his rights if they didn’t let him on the ride.

Couldn’t a logical person have figured out a lap restraint can’t hold someone wo doesn’t have a lap?

The park owners are screwed either way.
But he paid the ultimate price. It must have been terrifying.


32 posted on 07/10/2011 4:56:12 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: repub4ever1

The clamping bar is usually below your navel. A double amputee has much smaller mass below navel than a normal person. This soldier should never have risked that kind of ride.


More to the point, the ride operators should have never let him on. Of course, the $8/hr teenagers operating it likely had minimal training—not enough to consider factors like center of gravity. They were probably just strictly going by the height rule. Sad incident all around.


33 posted on 07/10/2011 5:12:22 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Borough Park

BINGO!!!


34 posted on 07/10/2011 5:22:14 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Borough Park
The business owner is between a rock and a hard place in a situation like this. Keep him off, and the headline is the amusement park discriminates against handicapped veterans, and they end up being sued for ADA violations.

I would think that it would be better to be sued by ADA and argue that the restraints were not going to hold him, than to be sued for negligent homicide.

At any rate I think the park could argue that common sense was needed by all parties, the deceased, the family member that was with the deceased on the ride and probably helped him onto the ride and the park/ride operator.

If the park were smart they would have their lawyer get a hold of this mans family and let them know if they try to sue, that they will counter sue. This man and his family member used poor judgement that affected other visitors at the park and especially on that ride.

35 posted on 07/10/2011 7:33:43 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: rbg81

If the operator went by the height rule he wouldn’t have been tall enough.


36 posted on 07/10/2011 7:38:01 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: alexander_busek

Because they were inverted as the legs departed, the prosthetics were flung off into the landscaping and the staff had to search the grounds for them.


37 posted on 07/10/2011 11:54:04 AM PDT by ransomnote
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I prefer to have individuals take responsibility for their own actions. As much as I admire the soldier’s service, as a grown man, he should know better than to ride in a high acceleration roller coaster.

This country has gone too far blaming “others” such as corporations, and close to minimum wage ride operator instead of placing the blame where it belongs..individual responsibility for individual actions. US has 10 times the lawyers per capita than Japan, and we are paying the price.


38 posted on 07/10/2011 6:51:40 PM PDT by repub4ever1 (Capitalism is not perfect, but it beats all other systems hands down.)
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