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GM in big trouble?
SteveH | 6/18/2011 | SteveH

Posted on 06/18/2011 8:22:54 AM PDT by SteveH

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To: Lancey Howard
I have a friend...that told me his mother is getting fed up with doing
battle with the OnStar types.

She went after them for something like changing the renewal date
of her service to the date of her renewal. That is, if the
service runs to the end of the month, and you renew today, the
service expires one year from today, not one year from the end
of the month, shafting you out of the days left on your original
purchase.

Maybe it was adding minutes. Something like that.

I can understand. I once had a credit card that would charge me the
yearly fee (early 1980s) 3 months in advance. And yes, I did
cancel the card.

Any way, the next time this woman went to use OnStar, them
diddling with the account had shut off the service. I'm
assuming they did charge her card for the renewal earlier.

He told me yesterday his mother was yet again on the warpath with
OnStar for some new charge for something she didn't
want/order/use.

41 posted on 06/18/2011 9:20:01 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Gaffer

I will never buy a GM car until it goes fully bankrupt and union contracts are broken. Obama does not count in his GM bailout numbers the $10 Billion in loss carryforwards that GM was allowed to keep after its restructuring, and the huge taxpayer funded tax credit that comes with every Volt.

I can’t believe the saps who bought GM stock! Even with all the sweetheart deals, GM is not run for the shareholders. It is run for the unions and the Democrat party. Who in their right mind would keep GM stock after the $4k bonus each employee received after GM just emerged from bankrupt, or when the CEO talked approvingly of the federal government increasing gas taxes by $1? Does anyone think GM will ever expand into non-union states? So why should shareholders keep the stock in this case?


42 posted on 06/18/2011 9:22:07 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: SteveH

They are if they wait for me to buy anything from them!

I will not contributed one dime to the UAW and that is who currently owns GM thanks to Obozo.


43 posted on 06/18/2011 9:22:13 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: SteveH

Why don’t you post the dealership name and location? Is it a secret or a story?


44 posted on 06/18/2011 9:22:20 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: Calvin Locke

If you think On-Star is a nightmare, try cancelling XM or Sirius radio.


45 posted on 06/18/2011 9:23:55 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: oblomov; Leaning Right; free me
I thought they got 10 cents on the dollar, and they got nothing?

Thanks for chiming in, all three of you; it's worse than I thought.

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GM Could Be Free of Taxes for Years

General Motors Co. will drive away from its U.S.-government-financed restructuring with a final gift in its trunk: a tax break that could be worth as much as $45 billion......Usually, companies that undergo a significant change in ownership risk having major restrictions put on their tax benefits. The U.S. bailout of GM, in which the Treasury took a 61% stake in the company, ordinarily would have resulted in GM having such limits put on its tax benefits, according to tax experts......But the federal government, in a little-noticed ruling last year, decided that companies that received U.S. bailout money under the Troubled Asset Relief Program won't fall under that rule....

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704462704575590642149103202.html

46 posted on 06/18/2011 9:24:30 AM PDT by zipper
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To: Leaning Right
...suppose you lived in a region where road salt is used heavily in the winter... Would you have your Ford rust-proofed

Definitely.

47 posted on 06/18/2011 9:26:33 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ClearCase_guy

how times change—about 2007 or so i said something similar about gm

and long-time posters were asking for me to be censored.


48 posted on 06/18/2011 9:32:31 AM PDT by ken21 (liberal + rino progressive media hate palin, bachman, cain...)
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To: Lancey Howard
I did cancel XM. The cost/benefit disappeared for me, so I decided to
save the money. And it did take a while to wind through their
"systems".
49 posted on 06/18/2011 9:33:29 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Lancey Howard
try cancelling XM or Sirius radio.

A relative cancelled his subscription but not after numerous offers to renew it. He said their final offer was $7. --$7 a month?-- I inquired. No, $7 a year. I want that deal when my subscription expires in September.

50 posted on 06/18/2011 9:39:51 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: SteveH

This is probably what’s going on at the dealership.

http://www.gmfacilityimage.com/buick_gmc/introduction.php


51 posted on 06/18/2011 9:42:40 AM PDT by Walmartian
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To: ClearCase_guy

We have been GM folks for generations...personal and business and a lot of ‘em! NO MORE AND NO GOATS (Chystler). F O R D... On my way to replace a Cady with an Explorer.


52 posted on 06/18/2011 9:44:12 AM PDT by Bubba (Kriss... firearm of choice for close encounters of the worst kind)
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To: SteveH

One of the things that really pissed me off in the debate the other night was John King acting as though it was common knowledge that the GM takeover was a smashing success. Not one candidate on the stage bothered to ask him what alternate universe he was living in. No one challenged his assertions at all.


53 posted on 06/18/2011 9:56:04 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I had a hard enough time canceling one of my four receivers. They ended up sending me two new ones just in case I changed my mind.


54 posted on 06/18/2011 9:57:59 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: ngat

How about when he says “Let me be clear”.

I would love to see a book of Obama-isms. It would be an interesting read.

Of course, the liberals would be outraged at the very concept of such a book. But, the rest of know that Obama creates gaffes all the time. Yes, Bush mangled the language, and all politicians create gaffes at times. But only Obama seems to be immune from the uproars which develop when a Republican says something stupid or taken out of context to make the Republican speaker look stupid.


55 posted on 06/18/2011 10:10:05 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: DeFault User

My wife got stiffed for ~$20 by XM/Sirius and as a result, my son cancelled his subscription. Interestingly, the company will give NO email or written verification that you have cancelled, and my credit card company told me there was no way to stop them from charging my card if they wanted to. This bothered the bejeebers out of me, and I had to keep careful tabs on my charges for at least two months.

They pestered the house with calls for at least a month after my son cancelled, and each time the price got lower. We could have had the service for peanuts by the time they made their final “final offer”, but my wife’s experience with them in trying to get credit for the $20 they took killed the deal. We want nothing to do with them.


56 posted on 06/18/2011 10:32:28 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SteveH

The health of the dealership really has little to do with the health of GM. My guess is that your dealer is one of the ones they closed down, and now the guy is just trying to sell off his old inventory.


57 posted on 06/18/2011 12:40:24 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: The Old Hoosier

I dug up the dealership on the internet and it turns out that the dealership moved to a new location a couple of blocks down the road. (The original dealership of ~2008 is an empty shell of a building in a different area of town.)

Still, to have that many new cars just sitting around at a pre-owned car lot does not relieve much of my original concern (as a taxpayer)...


58 posted on 06/18/2011 1:23:05 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: SteveH

The only GM dealership on the Big Island (Hawaii) closed down a while back. Not a huge market, to be sure, but few were buying their Guvment Motors crap................


59 posted on 06/18/2011 1:58:57 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69
General Motors (aka Government Motors, aka Obama Motors) must die. It must go through a real bankruptcy and a real reorganization. The UAW and its contracts must also die. If not, GM as it exists now is just another Obama Black Hole to suck taxpayers dry.
60 posted on 06/18/2011 2:44:13 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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