Unless I call them, no idiot JBT better ever show up on MY property unless he has a valid warrant signed by a judge.
Otherwise I'll consider him a trespasser and use the appropriate remedy.
Posted on 05/10/2011 5:26:48 PM PDT by Immerito
I have a better idea. Go Julian Assange on ‘em
Just publish the names and addresses of where all police officers on the force live, their phone numbers, and out all undercover cops.
After all, the First Amendment says you can.
You clearly have a deep seated hatred and anger directed at law enforcement. I have no idea what predicated it, perhaps you believe it justified, it’s hard to know. Some people just like to spout and some people have had some sort of trauma and take it out on an entire group because of it. I don’t know, and really, I don’t care. A small group shows up on ALL of these threads and with a small amount of information pronounces all law enforcement bad guys. It’s disgusting.
I guess it would be asking too much for the cops to use the pepper spray so many of them carry on their Batman utility belts, instead of a gun.
The police officer had NO lawful reason to be on the homeowner’s property, and he had NO reason to engage with a dog that was secured behind a gate, much less shoot it.
Observation and logic would have revealed to the cop that the criminal was not present. Ergo, he had no grounds to search the neighbor’s yard for the criminal.
The police officer trespassed on the non-cop citizen’s property.
It is a dangerous precedent to allow any government to grant itself the privilege of damaging or destroying property without the consequence of reimbursing the property owner.
There is NO defense for what happened here.
Why do you object to the notion that officers should have a warrant to search a neighbor’s property when they are clearly not in hot pursuit of a criminal?
If the dog literally lunged at the officer, (and that term is not an exaggeration of he facts), then it is clear that the officer had his good at the ready and out of the holster before he entered the gate.
Therefore, he had already made a decision to shoot before he opened the gate. The dog was doing its job. It has not been established that the cop was doing his job.
If the dog literally lunged at the officer, (and that term is not an exaggeration of the facts), then it is clear that the officer had his good at the ready and out of the holster before he entered the gate.
Therefore, he had already made a decision to shoot before he opened the gate. The dog was doing its job. It has not been established that the cop was doing his job.
If these were isolated incidents I wouldn’t be so angered at what I see here. But shooting family pets because these idiots with badges are “afraid” is now much too common to consider it an exception.
I was raised to believe cops helpful and there to protect, and at that time they were. I’m sure in many cases they still are, especially in small towns perhaps. However today it seems the opposite is true. They’re just another gang on the streets, one that operates with impunity. Don’t believe me? Live in any urban area and just watch how they treat the very citizens they’re supposed to ‘protect and serve’ and how they cavalierly violate the very Constitution they swear an oath to uphold.
Again, I reiterate...any cop who shoots MY dog on MY property does so at his own peril.
**officer had his GUN at the ready
“——acting more like Gestapo.”
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Bullshit !
I don’t know what the law allows, the gate was open, hence, he believed (it appears—the article is short on detail) the burglar had gone that way. Your posts seem like you were there, since you seem to know what happened, without doubt. So, please enlighten us.
I don’t have enough detail to know if there is defense in this case. I do agree that they should not be able to damage property without compensation.
As I said, I’m not sure what the law states in such a case. What the officer did seems logical to me, if the gate was open and a suspect had been seen in the area. If he had run back to get a warrant I suppose it would have been a moot point by the time he got back. Is that what you’re suggesting?
According to the article the gate was already open, which is why I assume he thought the suspect went that way.
How common? I don’t think they are particularly common, I see a few of these on FR, but seriously, do you really believe they are that common? If you can provide me with any good statistics that suggest it is common I’ll be right there with you, but I really think the reason it’s news is because it’s NOT common. Now, I suspect there are places where law enforcement is corrupt as all get out, AND I think some things they do (running radar to collect $$$ instead of driving around and stopping people who are driving in a reckless manner) are borderline corrupt. But, that’s not the issue here. If someone wants to post a thread about that stuff, I’ll be right there.
The problem with these threads tho is that the same group comes on and it’s the same drumbeat. Cops are bad, blah blah blah. There is no proof from THIS article that the cop did anything corrupt. Perhaps he didn’t act wisely, I can’t tell. But the drumbeat just makes people stop listening when something REAL happens that needs to be addressed.
And didn't I note its the officer's responsibility (and presumably the “rational” half of this event) to take into account the effect his unannounced/unwanted presence in the dog's territory would create ?
Damn, all that wasted time learning to write...... >PS
1. I keep big dogs.
2. I’m continually amazed at how ignorant most folks are regarding the innate behaviors of “man’s best friend”.
3. I work with cops every working day. I “know the breed”, so to speak.
4. Not all cops are as smart as dogs so they’re at a disadvantge in confronting a dog that’s good at his job.
5. When radio calls, strobing lights, sirens, and fear all combine to dump a mega-dose of adrenaline into an armed individual lots to strange things happen....... >PS
1. I keep big dogs.
2. I’m continually amazed at how ignorant most folks are regarding the innate behaviors of “man’s best friend”.
3. I work with cops every working day. I “know the breed”, so to speak.
4. Not all cops are as smart as dogs so they’re at a disadvantge in confronting a dog that’s good at his job.
5. When radio calls, strobing lights, sirens, and fear all combine to dump a mega-dose of adrenaline into an armed individual lots to strange things happen....... >PS
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