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1 posted on 04/09/2011 6:35:34 PM PDT by publius1
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34 posted on 04/09/2011 7:36:18 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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here is part of the Ben Franklin letter....

Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind

an excerpt:

24. Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small.

All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so.

And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased.

And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red?

But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.


38 posted on 04/09/2011 7:56:01 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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I checked the Familiar Exposition of the Constitution of the United States by Justice Joseph Story, published in 1859. In a brief discussion of the "natural born" qualification, which he seems to see as a fairly self-evident consideration, he uses the phrase "native citizen."

I know that doesn't answer the question, maybe muddles it more, but at least it goes back to the Founders, whom Story knew (he was appointed to the US Supreme Court in 1811 by President James Madison) and served with Justice Marshall for many years.So, find out what "native " meant in 1850's and you may find a clue.

41 posted on 04/09/2011 8:09:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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They were both common law terms that have been defined.
natural born was defined by the first continental congress second session.

Bottom line

native born is born on American soil
natural born is born on American soil of American parents


52 posted on 04/09/2011 9:17:12 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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Things that are “natural” — “being in accordance with or determined by nature” — require no definition.

They just are.

If a person’s citizenship status has to be defined by an amendment, a law, or a statute, they are not “natural” born. They are “statutory” citizens — for example, Obama:

http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/FourCases.htm#Obama

Persons, eligible for the Office of the President of the United States (POTUS), NEVER have first generation ties to a foreign nation, whereas ineligible persons always do.

ALL statutory citizens are born with a tie to another nation by birthplace and/or blood, but NEVER is that the case with natural born citizens who have only American ties.

A statutory citizen (bestowed by man’s pen) can never be a “natural born” citizen (bestowed by God/nature).

Cheers . . .


72 posted on 04/10/2011 4:00:03 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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Ping


75 posted on 04/10/2011 10:02:29 AM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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