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Trump fails to produce birth certificate
Politico ^ | 03/28/2011 | Ben Smith

Posted on 03/28/2011 4:48:32 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

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To: blackdog

“Trump was waitng for the call. He’s giving the public a real show. Step by step, inch by inch.”

Agree. The Donald is just playing Obama like a musical instrument. He is going to be like a steady drumbeat. I am loving every minute of it.


201 posted on 03/28/2011 8:33:05 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

You post a link to Palin......deflect much do you, troll?
Let me give you a hint DUmmie, I’m not a Palin supporter for POTUS.......yet.


Governor Palin’s opinion is that faithers/birthers are a “distraction” and “annoying,” so I suppose in what laughingly passes for your “mind,” she’s an “Obot.”


202 posted on 03/28/2011 8:52:36 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Plummz

This is a lie. Please stop posting lies to FreeRepublic.om.


“The state of Hawaii says that he was born there. That’s good enough for me.”—Congressman John Boehner, Speaker of the House
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/143737-boehner-on-birthers-its-not-my-job-to-tell-the-american-people-what-to-think

“President Obama posted a copy of his birth certificate on his former campaign website.”—Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2010/Testimony/SB2937_TESTIMONY_JGO_02-23-10_LATE.pdf

“...verifying that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born American citizen.”—Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director Of the Hawaii Department of Health
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf

“The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year’s presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama’s American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.

Asked about that document, Okubo said, ‘This is the same certified copy everyone receives when they request a birth certificate.’”—Janice Okubo, Director of Communications/Public Information Officer, Hawaii Department of Health
http://archives.starbulletin.com/content/20090606_kokua_line

Ironically, the ‘birther’ movement began in response to Obama’s own efforts to debunk rumors. One year ago this week, the presidential campaign of then-Sen. Barack Obama launched FightTheSmears.com, a web site designed to push back against false rumors about the first African-American presidential nominee. To push back against rumors that he was not born in Hawaii, the campaign reproduced a Certificate of Live Birth from the state’s Health Department. Instead of terminating the conspiracy theories, that inspired new theories — that the certificate had been forged or that even if it hadn’t been forged it was the sort of certificate that could be given to someone born outside of the United States. But the certificate is specific about Obama’s birth in Honolulu, down to the 7:24 p.m. time.

“It’s crazy,” said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. “I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.”

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are “more like threats,” explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. “If you were born in Bali, for example,” Okubo explained, “you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.”—Janice Okubo, Director of Communications/Public Information Officer, Hawaii Department of Health
http://washingtonindependent.com/51489/birther-movement-picks-up-steam

“The president was in fact born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawai’i, and that’s just a fact.”—Governor Linda Lingle (R-HI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YjJXe01JkE

U.S. House Of Representatives Resolution 593 (111th Congress) sponsored by Congressman Neil Abercrombie commemorating the 50th Anniversary of Hawai’i statehood and containing the statement “The 44th President of the United States was born in Hawai’i on August 4, 1961.”
http://tomkovach.us/AIP—National/090729—Text_of_H-Res-593.html
Vote on the resolution: 378 voting “aye” and 0 voting “nay.”
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2009-647


203 posted on 03/28/2011 9:18:38 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Smokeyblue
Why is this in "Chat"?
204 posted on 03/28/2011 9:31:20 PM PDT by maggief
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To: jamese777

jamese777 admits Lingle misspoke but tries to spin why she wasn’t lying outright (from Jan. 11, 2011): “Every time a person misspeaks, it doesn’t mean that they are lying.”


205 posted on 03/28/2011 9:39:29 PM PDT by edge919
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To: bunster
"Hope I’m not veering too far off subject but:"

"Cashill to appear on Fox & Friends on Tuesday morning (3/29) at 6:20 a.m. Eastern time."

My goodness, no. Exquisite timing, I'd say, with Cashill's book on Ayer's ghostwriting of Dreams From My Fatah hitting the stores in a few hours. -----And Thursday's video of Ayers joking that he wants the royalties.

Barack, the Phoney Pony.

206 posted on 03/28/2011 9:39:53 PM PDT by cookcounty (Obama channeling TR: "Speak incessantly and carry a little schtick.")
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To: maggief

I’m not sure. I think it got moved there. I posted it in News.


207 posted on 03/28/2011 9:45:10 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: W. W. SMITH

If Brackets were declared ineligible, under our Constitution. the POTUS would be Biden, not Cheney.


208 posted on 03/28/2011 9:45:16 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Smokeyblue

Thanks.

Perhaps the mods are moving Trump threads to Chat, ... I get that. The fact that POLITICO has been punked is reason to keep this in News.

JMO


209 posted on 03/28/2011 9:48:47 PM PDT by maggief
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To: jcsjcm

if we had to go down the line of succession to the cabinet secretaries today we’d have Hlllary! Doesn’t that make your day?


210 posted on 03/28/2011 9:49:18 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

Well, yeah since I did think that it was the Secretary of Defense which is Hillary! So I guess I was right.

Would I like the choice though? Not a chance! :)


211 posted on 03/28/2011 10:05:56 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: Smokeyblue
Politico goes full-birther on Donald Trump.

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I believe that Obama is a liar and a fraud when it comes to this Obama long form birth certificate mess.

Having said that, if I were advising Trump, I would advise him that it is in his best interest---and adds a lot of weight to his credibility---that he release his own long form birth certificate as soon as possible, because many Obama supporters---like posters at the Politico message board---are now jumping all over Trump and ridiculing him because he has only released a hospital certificate that lacks the detail information that a New York state/city long form birth certificate would have.

I thank Trump very much for his tremendous effort in using the power of his name to publicly raise world-wide awareness to the almost taboo subject of Obama's lack of a long form birth certificate, but I believe that he needs to provide the public with his own long form birth certificate if he wants us to take him seriously.

212 posted on 03/28/2011 10:06:01 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Smokeyblue

This is getting interesting. What would you do if you were obama? Of course you would have to be a politician, but just play along. You couldn’t show the bc. That would show that you admit the people have a right to see it. And then you would have to release everything else. No this can’t happen. He will continue to hide everything and make jokes about it.

As far as trump is concerned, he needs to get it right. On greta tonight he said you can’t be prez if you are not born here. He really needs to talk about nbc. If you have an alien parent, you are done. Period. If he would say that, then you would see the earth move!


213 posted on 03/28/2011 10:16:02 PM PDT by jdirt
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To: TChad

I just realized what the commotion is! Certificat”ION” vs Certificat”E”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Plus all the signatures.


214 posted on 03/28/2011 10:17:27 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: jcsjcm

just cause she shot down Gates on national television yesterday doesn’t make her SecDef. They’re still stuck with her at State.


215 posted on 03/28/2011 10:22:20 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: HiTech RedNeck

[You think this was a feint on purpose?]

I think so but I’m guessing. I would imagine Trump has some smart political consultants working for him by now. I think his raising of the birth certificate question was not spontaneous but part of an incremental strategy to force the issue into the open. If so, Trump would first have to make sure his own original birth certificate exists.


216 posted on 03/28/2011 10:24:50 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: nhwingut
Unlike Zero, Trump's at least shows the physician's name.

Not relevant. Humans were birthed before physicians were invented. The presence of a doctor's signature on the document is simply meant to distract from the fact that doc omits crucial facts, such as city, state, and country.

217 posted on 03/28/2011 10:56:11 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Windflier; jcsjcm; W. W. SMITH
If we are dealing with a usurper, none of the regulations concerning the removal, etc of a "President" apply. There would be no legal President to remove. We would be under the status of the Twentieth amendment, section three.

”3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”

A Presidential term can only begin with a legal President. If there has been a "failure to qualify", then according to this provision, Biden is President. Since a "legal" Presidential term has still not started, section three is still applicable in my opinion.

218 posted on 03/28/2011 10:59:42 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Smokeyblue

O
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They BOUGHT IT!!! Hook line and sinker!!! Rotflmao!

Oh good LORD! I sincerely though they were smarter than this!!!!

Unless of course the press has been looking for a way to burn Obama and the COLB thing! You k ow, find a back handed way to illustrate how illegitimate Obama SURROGATES posting pics of a forged document!

Lol

This is funnier than me kicking that poor bugger sweetk’s butt on the other Trump thread for miss quoting the declaration of independence while claining the quote was from the constitution!! Though itsmpretty darned close.

The Donald has done it again! Ben Smith just did a full frontal nude here, and something tells me he doesn’t even know it yet! Lmao


219 posted on 03/28/2011 11:04:20 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Please note: in the continuing effort to confuse, the State of Hawaii has just recently changed the NAME of the document we refer to as the “CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH” to “CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH”. They are clearly two different documents, but Hawaii now calls them by the SAME NAME.

Yes it’s a deliberate effort to confuse. It is very deliberate.


220 posted on 03/28/2011 11:12:16 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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