I’d like to note that I just did considerable research on this topic, and several who seemed to know what they were talking about posted in various discussion forums that tri-sodium phosphate was way too caustic and would wreck the seals and aluminum parts of your dishwasher and washing machine, and that a better chemical, one of the ones that had been used in household cleaners before it was removed, was sodium tripoly phosphate (STPP).
What you want to use here is technical-grade, low-density STPP. There’s a guy on ebay selling it and I bought some. I’m too lazy to premix it with my regular cleaners, so I just pour about 3 tablespoons in the soap dispenser of my washing machine when I pour in the regular soap. With the dishwasher, I just dump about a tablespoon onto the door before I close the door.
The difference in clothes is truly remarkable. They start to look as bright as new, and lose that progressive dinginess that they accumulate otherwise with the crappola neo-Marxist, Greenie fake soaps that are now the only ones sold in the stores. My dishes get clean now too.
I then located a cleaner manufacturing company in Denver, and drove there and they sold me a 50 pound bag of STPP far cheaper than online. This company makes a very large variety of cleaners, and I tried to convince the owner he should also sell just plain STPP, and label it something like “Hard Water Dishwasher and Washing Machine Booster”. I think word would spread virally and that he’d have an instant hit on his hands.
Phosphates are banned in only a hand full of states, but the big manufactures are too lazy to make two different products, so they invariably make their products to match the lowest common denominator, which is usually California.
BTW, though not illegal in Colorado, when I first went looking for TSP (before I realized STPP was the way to go), all I found was fake stuff that was named “TSP”, but which did not actually contain any tri-sodium phosphate. Couldn’t even buy it online from the chain stores, even though they sold the real thing online in other states. An Ace Hardware store clerk told me why. Real TSP is a key ingredient in the illicit manufacture of methamphetamine, so all retail business in Colorado “voluntarily” refuse to sell it, even though it is not illegal. They even go so far as to filter availability via zip code online. Essentially this is fascism at work.
I’m a little late to the discourse, but does anyone know of a CLR substitute? I had a new commode put in, and it already as lime buildup! Is there something I can add to the water to stop this???
Does TSP work for that?
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■Phosphorus content: this formula averages 6 percent phosphorus, in the form of phosphates, which is equivalent to 0.8g per tablespoon.
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I was screaming out loud by the end of it..
I need to post all of my thoughts in one post (this is third) but your remark about a clean dishwasher reminded me. My dishwasher was starting to leak underneath. I found the source and was mulling over whether or not to replace it myself, call a repairman or get a new dishwasher.
ANECDOTAL ONLY: It stopped leaking when I started adding the TSP. My appliance-repair-for-dummies-brain tells me maybe the water discharge tubing is rinsing cleaner as well. May or may not be true, but no more leaks.
I’m joining the chorus of people who used TSP to solve their dishwasher problems. Got it in a NJ Home Depot last week. Now I add a teaspoon to each load and it’s all sparkling.
No matter how long I would run that dishwasher, everything was coming out gray and dirty. I am going to get some TSP.
Pssst! I recently bought a bunch of Cascade WITH PHOSPHATES from Restockit.com!!
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Just wanted to thank you for the info on adding phosphate to the dishwasher. I experimented and am adding 2 teaspoons per wash. Works like a charm.
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I can’t tell you how much I appreciate the info!. I have the hardest water anyone has ever seen, I literally get a solid white coating on all my dishes, killed 3 dishwashers and just don’t want to kill the new one. This actually worked!!!! I am so happy if I could give you a great big hug I would so I am most grateful. If this works for me, it can work for anyone!!
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