Posted on 12/20/2010 7:19:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Well, no, the 2nd law applies to ANY system in which energy and work are present. The application just depends on whether the system is open or closed, etc.
> “The second Law of Thermoldynamics, itself one of God’s creations, doesn’t apply since the Earth is not a closed system”
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Rubbish!
The universe is very much a closed system, and the ‘closed system’ parameter was injected to allow a proof sequence, and has little bearing on the overall factual nature of the laws.
The time from Adam to present, per genealogy, is roughly 6017-6076 years. The world itself is obviously much older then that or we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. Just to scratch the surface, to think that dinosaurs were on the Ark would take a great stretch of the imagination, the flood does not adequately account for all of rock strata and the existence of coal, to think that God originally created a world that was “without form and void” (tohu va bohu) would certainly contradict a perfect God who saw that everything else was good, to restrict the existence and work of God to only the last 6-7000 years would certainly go against anything we believe.
The total destruction of this world after Lucifer corrupted it after Gen 1:1 then recreated it after Gen 1:2 makes much more sense and has much more base in fact and evidence.
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No, it's many equations, and they are the only true way to express and properly utilize the 2L. Any natural language expression is only an approximation. Show me an equation describing decreased entropy on Earth in the Earth/Sun system as violating the 2L. Put up or shut up.
Dust falling from shoes...
The only thing this proves is that ya'll are as bad at science as you are at theology.
Posting other people’s talking points makes you look ignorant.
Your post 87 explains it well. To use the volcanic rock as an example has as many problems as the original dating methods. Your last sentence put it in perspective well.
I hold that the gap theory is the best starting point for Biblical scholars.
Evolution is the belief that requires equations showing decreased entropy on Earth and in the Earth/Sun system. And on a massive scale too considering all of the life forms supposedly generated by this 'equation'.
Oops
Actually it proves that you are worse at science than you are at theology.
Absolutely determined to take the word of men over the Word of God?
Even if it is true, note the correlation between that falling away and the condition of our society and political landscape.
The wholesale rejection of God that comes from the atheistic mindset which has hijacked science is destroying us.
And notice, even for the alleged *improvement* in getting rid of creationism, public schools suck worse than ever. Eliminating creationism in schools has done NOTHING to improve the quality of education that kids are receiving in those indoctrination centers.
Perhaps you not read ‘The Genesis Flood’ by Henry Morris? In it there is a picture of a fossilized dinosaur footprint with a human footprint embedded within it.
Also in the Book of Job are descriptions of behemoth and leviathon. It truly is just wishful thinking that man and dinsaurs never existed at the same time. Sure I know some are dangerous. Are there not man-eating animals and sea-creatures alive today?
Or consider the coelacanth (sp?) and wolemi pine tree presumed to exist only w/ the dinosaurs approx 70 million years ago. Now they try to not discuss this fish nor this tree anymore. Since living fossils were found for each - the coelacanth for sale no less in South American food markets!
Rubbish indeed. The universe cannot be both infinite and a closed, isolated system. Within the universe, the Earth in neither closed nor isolated. Energy and matter continue to arrive from numerous sources in a completely nonlinear manner and energy and matter are similarly ejected.
And sadly, we have many who call on the name of Christ arguing that the atheistic mindset is the ultimate arbiter over the Word of God.
The universe is a finite, bounded entity, that is, by observation, equally distributed about the Earth.
Just like it says in God’s word.
The ecosystem we are talking about is Earth; therefore, decreased entropy is only required on Earth. Nobody is saying that the entropy of the Sun is decreasing. It is increasing massively, supplying the Earth system with abundant entergy.
Touche GourmetDan, now let’s see would you actually be descibing devolution using the 2nd thermodynamic law?
Oops is right - are the eggs ready yet?
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