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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2011 inductees include Neil Diamond, Alice Cooper: who else ?
ew ^ | Dec 15 | Margaret Lyons

Posted on 12/15/2010 10:14:36 AM PST by JoeProBono

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To: dfwgator

Classic...lol.


201 posted on 12/16/2010 9:39:29 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: dfwgator

Never heard of either Cracker or Camper Van Beethoven. I pretty much bailed out on music scene in the early 90s.


202 posted on 12/16/2010 9:41:45 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: dfwgator

There are only four Stooges - and Iggy ain’t one of them. How dare he co-opt our heros’ name!


203 posted on 12/16/2010 9:47:52 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: dfwgator

Some of those old suits were mobsters. Deadly serious mobsters. They got the “hits” by more than just payola.

But those became the “hits” we know today. I don’t subscribe to the nostalgia, “top 100”, standard for what deserves to be enshrined.

The mob was entrenched in big-music into the 1970s.

But it’s like Vegas, the corporate suits who took over after the mob are less violent, but no more ethical.


204 posted on 12/16/2010 9:54:02 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Conservative Tsunami
Tiny Tim was a performer at Monterey Pop Festival and Isle of Wight festival 3 years later. He was relevant.
205 posted on 12/16/2010 9:55:01 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: a fool in paradise
Cherry Cherry wasn’t folk-rock. It was Brill Building hackwork. Fakebook Rock.

Who cares how it was composed or if you consider it "corporate rock." It doesn't invalidate it for me. In '67 "hacking" was routine.

Whatever Cherry Cherry was moved people and defined a sound and style for 20 years. Mellencamp, Paul Simon, The Romantics ('What I Like About You') etal., ALL ripped Cherry Cherry and Diamond off.

Btw, who hasn't "borrowed" from anyone else? The Beach Boys routinely ripped Chuck Berry off; So had The Beatles.

Anyone who's been listening to music from the 50's till now knows what "Real Rock" is. FWIW, I don't need someone else's ear to define it for me.

206 posted on 12/16/2010 10:01:44 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: a fool in paradise
Tiny Tim was a performer at Monterey Pop Festival and Isle of Wight festival 3 years later. He was relevant.

Tiny Tim was "relevant" only in the context of being a circus freak and ultimate spoof of pop culture at the time.

207 posted on 12/16/2010 10:04:54 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: Conservative Tsunami

“I’m a Believer” alone is proof that Diamond had the songwriting chops worthy of the RRHOF.


208 posted on 12/16/2010 10:05:24 AM PST by dfwgator (Welcome to the Gator Nation Will Muschamp)
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To: a fool in paradise

NOT my cup of mushroom tea, but hey - to each his own; Beauty is in the eye (or ear) of the beholder.


209 posted on 12/16/2010 10:07:19 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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Bout’ time with Alice Cooper.
He is an incredibly underrated songwriter and one of the most influential showmen around.


210 posted on 12/16/2010 10:08:38 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: dfwgator
Absolutely. To boot, he tossed the Monkees, 'A Little Bit of Me, a Little Bit of You.' The guy was a song-writing horse.

Ears aren't always looking for an "edginess."

FWIW, I loved the Monkees and Nesmith.

211 posted on 12/16/2010 10:11:54 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: Maverick68; Salamander
Bout’ time with Alice Cooper. He is an incredibly underrated songwriter and one of the most influential showmen around.

The Godfather of Goth, game-changer of Rock Shows forever....

His musical peak though substantial, was relatively brief, however. 1972-1974 was basically IT.

212 posted on 12/16/2010 10:15:23 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: a fool in paradise
Every generation tears it all down and returns to basics again.

But not this last one. The last ten years of "Pop" has seen the most un-listenable, gimmicky crap every composed. It's Broadway tunes-meets-Vegas; Been like eating at McDonalds every single day.

In my subjective opinion, the only area that's improved - and substantially - has been contemporary Country - yes, Country. It's at least attempting to recoups Rock's original cues, riffs, and trademarks.

Look - 95% of all Rock basics from the 1950s till now are nothing but simple three chords. It's why everything seems "derivative." But in any case it's what naturally sounds most pleasing to most ears.

Everything else are that core three-chord is just variations, embellishments.

213 posted on 12/16/2010 10:30:39 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: a fool in paradise
Woodstock killed rock and roll.

Absurd.

It was a catalyst if anything.

214 posted on 12/16/2010 10:32:13 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: Conservative Tsunami

The 70s version and 80s version didn’t get on radio/tv in their day either.

Radio is a joke. ABC-Time-Warner-Disney-Sony-Viacom is a major monopoly that should have been broken up 20 years ago.

Turn off the dial. The public has. It’s like going to the alphabet networks expecting to see real news coverage and not DNC talking points.


215 posted on 12/16/2010 10:32:25 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Conservative Tsunami

Hippydippy BS.

Plenty of people who were in rock back then (including Dave Marsh) will tell you this. Dave Marsh said that rock and roll and camping have nothing in common.


216 posted on 12/16/2010 10:33:22 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Conservative Tsunami

Far more rock acts played Monterey Pop and the Isle of Wight and the Atlanta Pop Festival and the Texas Pop Festival and...

Woodstock had a post-concert marketing system.


217 posted on 12/16/2010 10:34:20 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: JoeProBono
Nice healthy veins on Iggy's prancing, rocking-out 60 year bare old chest. WT@#$!??

Poor substitute for Jim Morrison musically and performance-wise.

218 posted on 12/16/2010 10:37:01 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: Conservative Tsunami
Screamin’ Lord Sutch was doing horror rock spectacles before Alice Cooper (and playing with his “heavy” friends who went on to play with the Rolling Stones, Led Zepplin, and the Jimi Hendrix Experience). And Screamin’ Jay Hawkins was there even before.

Ugliest inductees are yet to come (when they pat Marilyn Manson on the back for doing what Cooper and even Trent Reznor did before him and with no accolades for the industrial rock of Jim Thirwell aka Foetus who spawned that whole noisy subgenre of dance/rock).

219 posted on 12/16/2010 10:37:05 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Conservative Tsunami

Both of them shagged Nico.


220 posted on 12/16/2010 10:37:39 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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