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N.C. teen’s body probably fell from jet
BOSTON Globe ^

Posted on 12/11/2010 7:13:58 AM PST by outpostinmass2

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To: OBXWanderer
And in a related story . . .

The Obama administration has announced that all domestic air carriers will be required to install seat belts and warming devices in the wheel wells of all passenger planes.

41 posted on 12/11/2010 8:04:35 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Believe me or not, there isn’t, you are looking at the gear extended, not tucked in the well with all the associated arms and levers to get the job done, much less the large wheels and tires. What moron not ever having been in a well with the gear stowed, is going to take a chance that there is sufficient room. Much less the life support issues. The thought process, or lack thereof boggles the mind.

I flew the things for 20 plus years, and just being around gear doors when the hydraulic system is pressurized can be a significant danger, if you are not aware.


42 posted on 12/11/2010 8:06:56 AM PST by wita
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To: outpostinmass2

Teens do stupid stuff and unfortunately he did not get caught before he did this stunt....As a mom of 3 sons that survived their teenage years everyday I am thankful for my sons .....my heart goes out to his friends and family....

At some point this kid knew he was not going to survive and had to have been so scared....I hope he is at home with the Lord


43 posted on 12/11/2010 8:07:17 AM PST by Kimmers (Tell a lie often enough it becomes political........)
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To: Mr. Silverback

“Yeah, amazing given all the (justified) screaming going on around this site over the nudie scans and patdowns.”

You’re right. And he probably didn’t pass through TSA security. As we know, a photo ID and boarding pass is required for that. I would guess he followed ground employees through an employee door, which is usually at ground level. Still very strange that he wasn’t noticed. Poor kid.


44 posted on 12/11/2010 8:13:38 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

lot more room than I would have imagined in there....thanks for the pic...some really awesome shots on that website..


45 posted on 12/11/2010 8:13:51 AM PST by OBXWanderer (I'm up against a hard break...)
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To: outpostinmass2

Probably done on a stupid dare.

He probably croaked during the flight and just fell out during the landing gear drop.


46 posted on 12/11/2010 8:15:59 AM PST by headstamp 2 ("My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter")
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To: Mr. Silverback
What probably happened is he got disoriented and went to the wrong gate, or they switched gates, which happens occasionally. Then he ended up on a Boston flight instead of a Baltimore flight.

That's probably exactly what happened. I think some folks don't realize just how resourceful a sixteen year old can be when he wants to do something that he isn't supposed to do, and thinks he can get away with it.

47 posted on 12/11/2010 8:18:57 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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“Lots of activity on a commercial ramp.”

I know. I’m a retired flight attendant. If he didn’t have a baggage handler, pilot, or mechanic’s shirt/uniform on, I still think he would stand out wearing a tee shirt. Obviously, no one was paying attention.


48 posted on 12/11/2010 8:19:55 AM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: outpostinmass2
“It’s a terrible tragedy, what happened to this young man, but if that was someone with a different motive . . . if that was a terrorist, that could have been a bomb that was planted, undetected. This is very serious.’’

It is a terrible tragedy and my prayers go out to this kid's family. And once again we'll see the TSA REACT to the situation. They're always one step behind.

49 posted on 12/11/2010 8:41:38 AM PST by azishot (MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!!)
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To: rwfromkansas
Sounded like a great kid......why the heck he would do this is strange...

Like hitching a train, only higher and faster. And teen-aged boys are stupid about stuff -- kid probably had no idea what it means to be flying along at 30,000 feet.

50 posted on 12/11/2010 8:45:09 AM PST by r9etb
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If you don’t suffocate, you’ll freeze to death. Afterwards, the body just becomes a potential bomb as the wheel wells open and the corpse falls out like a stone.

Newest terrorist weapon.....dead-weight jihad bombs!!!!


51 posted on 12/11/2010 8:52:47 AM PST by ak267
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Yeah ... at 30 thou plus feet altitude and temperatures in the wheel well of the aircraft well below freezing this individual didn't have a chance of surviving.

On 4 June 1969, Armando Socarras Ramirez and Jorge Perez Blanco climbed into the right landing gear well of an Iberia DC-8, Flight 904 from Havana, Cuba to Madrid, Spain. Socarras survived the flight [...]

On August 5 2000, an unidentified Tahitian man was discovered in the wheel well of Air France flight 71 in Los Angeles that originated in French Polynesia and was to go on to Paris. The man spent seven hours hours inside the unheated and unpressurized landing gear at 38,0000 feet and survived temperatures of 50 degrees below zero. [...] He was flown back to Tahiti under orders from the Immigration and Naturalization Service

On June 9th, 2010, a 20-year-old Romanian stowaway survived a flight from Romania to Britain in the undercarridge of a Boeing 747 owned by a wealthy Arab sheik. He was taken into custody at Heathrow airport, where he reportedly fell out of the landing gear undercarriage. Paramedics checked him over, but he had suffered only minor injuries. It was reported he only survived because the jet flew at a lower cruising altitude of 33,000ft (rather than the standard 37,000ft) because of poor weather

Regards,

52 posted on 12/11/2010 8:52:58 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: outpostinmass2

Fatalities from hiding in aircraft wheel wells happen with disturbing regularity. So much so that you would think that by now the airlines would put a sign inside the wheel well, to the effect of “Don’t hide here, or you will die. Leave immediately.”

Maybe even put an emergency call button in there. Granted, by the time they run out of oxygen, it is a bit late, but still.


53 posted on 12/11/2010 8:58:19 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: basil; Mr. Silverback; humblegunner; outpostinmass2; Admin Moderator

Thank you all for correcting me. I shouldn’t have written it. I apologize.

(steely)


54 posted on 12/11/2010 9:04:13 AM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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“What the heck went on here? As a former crew chief, I guarantee you I wouldn’t be nissing a body in the wheel well of my jet one time, much less for a couple of months.”

It does say something about the quality of the pre-flight inspections.


55 posted on 12/11/2010 9:07:19 AM PST by CFIIIMEIATP737
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“I don’t have airline experience, but I can tell you that preflight inspections are pretty thorough, and the ones in between (called “thruflight” in the Air Force) would certainly involve checking around the wheel well area for leaks.”

Mr. Silverback, you are right and you are wrong. Pre-flight and thruflight are SUPPOSED to be thorough. In my thirty years of aviation I could tell you numerous stories of things not observed during preflights. This would include entire control surfaces missing (elevator), control rigged backwards (ailerons), control locks in place, pitot tube covers on, airplanes still chained down, tools laying in or on engines, tools laying in the cockpit, towbars still attached,.....


56 posted on 12/11/2010 9:15:42 AM PST by CFIIIMEIATP737
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To: alexander_busek

All of the instances you mention occurred in the summer months ... not in November in North America.


57 posted on 12/11/2010 9:21:46 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: outpostinmass2
Stowed-beneath-the-seat-in-front-of-you ping.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

58 posted on 12/11/2010 10:27:26 AM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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“At least his junk didn’t get touched. /sarc”

Yeah, he definitely found a way around the TSA. /sarc

I do wonder why he thought it was a good idea. It wouldn’t take much research to discover one’s chances were slim.


59 posted on 12/11/2010 10:53:54 AM PST by PLMerite (Fix the FR clock. It's time.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Good theory. At least it makes some kind of sense of his actions.


60 posted on 12/11/2010 12:02:38 PM PST by dr_lew
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