Migrants from the Near East 'brought farming to Europe'

BBC ^ | November 10, 2010 | Katia Moskvitch

[muawiyah]

Oh, my goodness, you've been into "Faux St0rmwhat'sit" haven't you.

They're still arguing that the Ainu are not East Asians ~

[muawiyah]

Oh, forgot amaranth ~ and a wide variety of squash and beans ~ you didn't need livestock if you could grow beans.

The THREE SISTERS of the American Indians (and this is North, South and Central American indians) are Corn, Beans and Squash. Grown together this was an incredibly productive food source.

They did this without ploughs ~

[decimon]

That`s why Teutonic legend calls them “Thor Losers”

Yes, a people renowned for their sense of humor. Nothing like a week in the "Bavarian Catskills" to loosen up.

[Verginius Rufus]

The new book by Bill Bryson, At Home, has an interesting discussion of Skara Brae.

[decimon]

The new book by Bill Bryson, At Home, has an interesting discussion of Skara Brae.

I don't know why that picture is in that article but it's a neat picture.

[blam]

"The Lap people in Finland are basically Asians."

The Sa'ami consider Lap or Laplander a derogatory term these days. I have some Sa'ami DNA but it doesn't bother me. I do dislike 'Redneck' somewhat though. (ahem)

Where Do The Finns Come From?

"It seems far more likely like people just walked on over and said "We could plant seeds here. Let's stop and stay a while."

Stephan Oppenheimer says in his book, The Origins Of The British, that his studies does not support a physical migration of people from the Middle East and that farming was just adopted from village to village by the people who were already at any location. In fact, he said that once a DNA haplogroup settled in an area, it was never replaced by another.

For example, the (majority) DNA of the Brits today is the same DNA that arrived there at the end of the Ice Age. It was wave after wave of essentially the same people migrating north and west out of the Iberian Ice Age refuge. Mostly halpogroups (yDNA)R1b and (mtDMA) 'H' of which are 65%+ of Western Europeans.

Renee Zellweger is Sa'ami.

[bvw]

Why do you drop the ‘L’?

[Frantzie]

Billy Ray Cyrus and his cows.

[blam]

"Why do you drop the ‘L’?"

What 'L'? (I don't know what you're talking about)

[bvw]

“sa’ami”?

[decimon]

“sa’ami”?

That's ba'oney.

[bvw]

The Ba’oney settled the Orkneys.

[Frantzie]

I thought she was Norweigian? You might be right because of the eyes. Nice picture of her there. When you see her in movies and interview - her eyes. She looks like she is squinting all the time. You are right.

I wonder why? I think it is probably adapting to the constant white snow to avoid snow blindness.

I think Pam Anderson is. She is supposedly Swedish. It is the eyes.

She looks like Finnish fiddle player Linda Brava aka
http://www.relaxedpolitics.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/linda-brava-2-site.jpg

http://www.topnews.in/files/Pamela-Anderson-1.jpg

Finnish Formula 1 drivers and world champions. Raikkonen looks more European while Hakkinen looks more Sa’ami.

http://www.scottasia.net/2008/serenity/press/images/Kimi_Raikkonen_1.jpg

http://www.formula1.com/photos/teams_and_drivers/hall_of_fame_profile/top_right/hof_profile_right_40.jpg

[squarebarb]

Have you checked out Dienekes blog? He blogs on genetic research. It can get very recondite and technical but it is of interest.

[decimon]

The Ba’oney settled the Orkneys.

I thought that was the Ma'arkey.

[sausageseller]

I thought that was the Ma'arkey.

I think it was Ma'larkey.

[decimon]

[muawiyah]

I follow up on this stuff by reading the papers once they've been mentioned by someone else on FR.

Keeping a focus on the Sa'ami stuff since there are 500 of them used by the Swedes and Finns as a medical testing ground.

They seem to be my tribe too! Keeps me ahead of the medical community by decades.

[muawiyah]

So is the gal who played Spiderman's girlfriend, and she's a friend of Pamela Anderson (who's also Sa'ami), and they have a couple of other friends they get together with to party and they are also Sa'ami ~ and it runs down hill from there.

This is the Swedish crowd so they're probably all Tiger Woods' ex-wife's cousins and friends as well.

[bvw]

Right, it was two peoples, like the Angles and Saxons. The Angles invented triangles and rectangles, before that there were just squares. And the Saxons invented the saxophone. Very jazzy combination. No squares, just hot sax.