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Why Do So Many Geeks Hate Internet Explorer?
How-To-Geek ^ | 18 October 2010 | HTG

Posted on 10/20/2010 8:28:50 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: samtheman
IE 8 has some pop-up when you start it (I don’t have it now and I don’t remember exactly what it says) that implies that you should get IE 8 now (even though you already have it!!!) and the only choices are DO IT NOW and REMIND ME LATER.

Yes, I love how many MS multiple choice dialogs are like:

Do the wrong thing

Do the right thing

Always do the wrong thing

If the wrong option gets an "always" why doesn't the good one? It's like someone at MS said "If those rubes are going to defy us, we'll make sure they have to go to the trouble to do it EVERY SINGLE TIME!" You'd think they were Democrats or something.

41 posted on 10/20/2010 9:07:56 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ShadowAce

Geeks are logical. Being asked to support inferior crap is illogical.

As stated above, American geeks in particular; are a recalcitrant lot, and we won’t stand for illogical direction for very long.

We’ll always find another way.


42 posted on 10/20/2010 9:08:20 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: samtheman

MS popups were of course brought to their ultimate in Windows Vista, where what was missing was a radio button that said “NEVER BOTHER ME ABOUT THIS F*****G THING AGAIN, OK????”


43 posted on 10/20/2010 9:10:29 AM PDT by Notary Sojac ("Goldman Sachs" is to "US economy" as "lamprey" is to "lake trout")
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To: ShadowAce

“It’s common knowledge that almost every single geek hates Internet Explorer with a passion”

Maybe geeks do, but professionals don’t.


44 posted on 10/20/2010 9:13:02 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: ShadowAce

IE is a bloated piece of crap and it loads way to slow with all the overhead it uses.

I quit using Bill’s POS years ago and ain’t looked back.


45 posted on 10/20/2010 9:15:33 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: B4Ranch
FireFox with NoScript and Adblock are the ideal browser. No blinking ads or popups, I love it.

There are ads on the internet? 

Been using firefox for so long I forgot.

46 posted on 10/20/2010 9:24:46 AM PDT by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: max americana

Interestingly, I’ve never, EVER installed an ad-on for any brouser, other than the Flash player. But then I pretty much only use the internet to read news stories and connect via email.

What do you use a video downloader for, other than what the name implies? Why do people have a need to do that. Is it a niche thing?


47 posted on 10/20/2010 9:26:56 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: max americana

I just remember the main reason I loved Firefox: Before using it I had to run Adaware constantly. Six months after switching to Firefox, I removed Adaware from my computer and haven’t had to worry since.


48 posted on 10/20/2010 9:28:26 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: VanDeKoik

I was using Vista for a long time and had problems with Firefox going RAM-ivore, but since I’ve gone to Win7, I’ve been very happy with FF’s performance. Of course, 12 GB of RAM might be part of the reason.


49 posted on 10/20/2010 9:29:12 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Notary Sojac
I still stick with Firefox because with the right combo of addons (Adblock, Greasemonkey and NoScript in my case) I can strip down every webpage to just what I want to see, and never have to look at a distracting and bandwidth hogging graphic, ad, or animation unless I -want- to.

Good combination!

50 posted on 10/20/2010 9:31:52 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: ShadowAce

Active-friggn’-X

nuff said.


51 posted on 10/20/2010 9:32:02 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: ShadowAce

They hate because it’s l33t to hate M$, because it’s l33t.


52 posted on 10/20/2010 9:34:11 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: ShadowAce

Well, no IE9 for me. XP is still on my machine.


53 posted on 10/20/2010 9:35:18 AM PDT by listenhillary (A very simple fix to our dilemma - We need to reward the makers instead of the takers)
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To: Notary Sojac
MS popups were of course brought to their ultimate in Windows Vista, where what was missing was a radio button that said “NEVER BOTHER ME ABOUT THIS F*****G THING AGAIN, OK????”
That's a good one.

Another one -- and I've thought of this a long time ago -- regarding how MS always challenges you when you want to do something (and sometimes just ignores you):

I would like a registry setting in HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet, a DWORD value that I can set to 1, with the name:

DoWhateverTheF*ITellYouToDoWheneverTheF*ITellYouToDoIt

54 posted on 10/20/2010 9:39:31 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Still Thinking

They are democrats. Gates is a progressive.


55 posted on 10/20/2010 9:42:05 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Notary Sojac

Another general windows beef that maybe somebody can help me with:

Situation: I try to go to a network share on my LAN on a server that is temporarily unavailable.

Result: It takes freaking FOREVER for the attempt to time out, during which it sometimes even freezes my entire computer (not just the windows explorer window where I made the connection attempt).

Is there a registry setting that shortens that time-out time?

Thanks.


56 posted on 10/20/2010 9:45:20 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: CodeToad

exactly I use both. i have started having issues with ie8 so run back to firefox.


57 posted on 10/20/2010 9:45:54 AM PDT by 09Patriot (your freedom to be you, includes my freedom to be from you.--Wilkow)
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To: ShadowAce
>And here’s where we come to the real issue—the whole reason that geeks can’t stand Internet Explorer:
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>Geeks everywhere were forced to use Internet Explorer at work even when there are better browsers, forced to support it for corporate applications, forced to make sure web sites still work in IE, and we couldn’t convince everybody to switch to a better browser.

Why then do the geeks [especially the programming ones] not hate C, C++, and Unix?
C is fairly obvious, the lack of index-checking on arrays is the reason for most all of the stack-overwrite error/security vulnerabilities.
The typing system is horrible, characters in particular ARE NOT SIGNED! (And even if you were to define the "sign-bit" as a case-indicator that utterly falls apart for languages with more than 2-cases, like German which has a Title-Case).
The Syntax makes it easy to make errors, one of my 'favorites' is the assignment-in-condition-checks e.g. if (user = administrator) { ... };
    Another is the the non-regularity of the operator-assignment shorthands; "!=" should apply 'not' and then assign the result.
The lack of strings is annoying and, in reality, the natural result of the lack of "real arrays" in C, that is they lack information on the valid indecies.
The OpenGL API is a good example of how nasty things the become in the C world; in particular because of the lack of procedure-overloading AND the lack of strong-typing, AND the lack of arrays.

As for OSes, Unix and its derivatives inherit a lot of the mentalities of C, simply because that language is so "close" to the OS.
The storage of everything, config-file wise, as [unstructured] text is fairly annoying. There are no guarantees on the structure of the text, as there would be in .INI files which retain the readability of plain-text while giving the advantage of grouping together 'attribute/value' pairs in its 'sections'.

Having said all that, it's odd that so many geeks embrace things like C/C++ after having been forced in academia to use C/C++, I would think that once in the "real-world" they would use better tools. Like Delphi (or even VB) for deving GUIs, LISP for lots of scripting tasks (EASY to write a parser), and so forth. The .NET ability to use multiple languages is probably underused with the MS pushing for everything/examples to be in C#; but I'm of the opinion that different languages for different domains is a good idea. Now, in order to avoid being wholly negative I should offer what I perceive as superior alternative to the C/C++ paradigm (imperative/procedural).
Ada:


58 posted on 10/20/2010 9:46:27 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

“1996: Internet Explorer 3... introduced in 1997, was the first browser to implement CSS (Cascading Style Sheets).”

That would be a good reason to hate it for the past 14 years.


59 posted on 10/20/2010 9:47:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: ShadowAce

this was outstanding, btw:

http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/sshot201010181040747.jpg


60 posted on 10/20/2010 9:49:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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