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The Battle that Saved the Christian West (October 7, 1571: Battle of Lepanto)
This Rock magazine ^ | 07/03/2007 | Christopher Check

Posted on 10/07/2010 3:58:49 PM PDT by iowamark

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To: iowamark

“If the Brits had captured New Orleans, they would have tossed the unratified Treaty of Ghent.”

Interesting theory. If they had, the US would have eventually recaptured it.


21 posted on 10/07/2010 5:36:07 PM PDT by MichaelNewton
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To: MichaelNewton
What about the battle of Manzikert ? That was one battle that the west lost. The Byzantines lost their main army and their Emperor was captured. The Emperor agreed to ridiculous terms to guarantee his freedom and those terms led to civil war within the Byzantine Empire. Thus the Byzantines were easy pickings for the Turks who expanded westward and eventually took Constantinople.
22 posted on 10/07/2010 5:49:20 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: iowamark
Suleiman? Transliterated from Turkish: سليمان -- Suleiman the Magnificient? Same person?
23 posted on 10/07/2010 5:50:07 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: iowamark

Janissaries = tribute children of Christian families given to the Muslim rulers in the country they live in. They were trained from youth as Muslims and soldiers. The intent was to assure than no Muslim military leader would threaten the ruler.


24 posted on 10/07/2010 6:00:17 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: njslim

“Sept 11, 1683 - relief army under king of Poland Jan Sobieski arrived in woods outside Vienna. Next day would rout the Ottoman force laying siege to the city.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna";

I definitely would not sell this battle short either - it was CRITICAL and it was CLOSE.


25 posted on 10/07/2010 6:01:20 PM PDT by BobL (The whole point of being human is knowing when the party's over.)
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To: DarthVader
This was a rout of Old Testament proportions.

Remember, November is Coming!

26 posted on 10/07/2010 6:03:35 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I would love to see our elections turn out to be like the Battle of Lepanto for the Rats. I hope God sees fit to make this happen.


27 posted on 10/07/2010 6:08:42 PM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: Texas Fossil

Yes, he died five years before Lepanto.


28 posted on 10/07/2010 6:30:36 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: DarthVader

From your mouth to God’s ear. May it be so.


29 posted on 10/07/2010 6:41:47 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: njslim

I hear Serbs badmouthed here ocassionally on FR, but not by me.

They are certainly the “keepers of the gate” between East & West. They know better than any Western leaning people what a Muslim really is. If that makes them a little “crazy” we should consider why.

We need not focus on old battles, we have a hot one on our hands now. We have a Commie Muzzie Traitor who sleeps at 1600 Penn. Ave. who intends to destroy the U.S. Our job is to deny him that success.

Remember, November is Coming.


30 posted on 10/07/2010 6:48:36 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: iowamark

Riveting


31 posted on 10/07/2010 7:30:57 PM PDT by naturalized
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32 posted on 10/07/2010 7:39:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Look to the Saudi infiltration of American politics and government. Abscam was a drop in the bucket. Blocking the development of American energy - Cui bono?


33 posted on 10/07/2010 8:14:53 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: MichaelNewton
I feel that historians place too much importance on these single battles (Lepanto and Salamis, for example). I have never been convinced that losses at these single battles would have meant the complete defeat of the West nor that these battles caused the complete defeat of the East. (Same with the Battle of Yorktown.)

I think that you are using a modern lense when thinking about ancient wars. Frequently the issue was decided in a single afternoon and it would be generations before it could be reversed. It wasn't really until Napoleon's time that generals started to think in terms of campaigns (ie. maneuvering toward battle and combining battles into ultimate victory).

34 posted on 10/07/2010 8:26:11 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: iowamark

Not mentioned in the article is the participation of Spain’s foremost literary light, Miguel de Cervantes. As a soldier in the Marine Infantry, he fought on board ship, suffered 3 gunshot wounds and lost the use of his left arm.

And to quote Wikipedia, “Cervantes always looked back on his conduct in the battle with pride: he believed that he had taken part in an event that would shape the course of European history.”


35 posted on 10/07/2010 8:49:20 PM PDT by DeFault User
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Hey I thought it was Charles Martel and the Battle of Roncevalle (sp?) at the Spain/France mountain border that saved Europe and Christianity.


36 posted on 10/07/2010 9:29:54 PM PDT by gleeaikin (question authority)
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The Battle of Roncevalle was fought by Charlemagne’s commander of his rear guard, Roland. It was a defeat. The Battle of Tours, won by Charles Martel, was Islam’s furthest incursion in the west. Vienna was the furthest incursion of Islam in southeast Europe. Lepanto was the furthest incursion of the Islamic Turks in the Mediterranean. Since those battles Islam has lost ground in the west until the later 20th century.


37 posted on 10/07/2010 9:52:55 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: iowamark

Thank you for this post. I learned of the Battle of Lepanto only a few years ago — right here. Perhaps it was from a post of yours. This is a thrilling piece of history and a testament to the faith of the Christians who fought this battle and prayed the Rosary. I pray that modern Christians in Europe and the Americas have the fortitude to carry on.


38 posted on 10/08/2010 5:28:56 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin, Zone 4 to 5)
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To: gleeaikin

The Hammer did what he did, and it stopped an Muzzie invasion of western Europe. Over the next half-millennium, more, the Iberians whittled the Moslem minority rulers down and ultimately booted them out and back into Africa. The Spanish and Portuguese also worked on trying to expand their rule into NW Africa. Spanish Sahara has a phony “indigenous” (Moslem) settler population that was put together and supported by the Algerians; the UN and UK support the settlers. Michael Palin (of Monty Python fame) did one of his partly fun/partly boring travel documentaries in Africa, and visited the settlers, also eulogized ‘em and soft-soaped the Libyan and Algerian dictatorships.


39 posted on 10/08/2010 8:18:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: iowamark

We shouldn’t forget the battle of Tours in southern France in 732 when Charles Martell led an army of ‘Franks” against a huge Muslim invading force from Spain.

Nor is the defeat of the Muslim invading force in the 1500s via the Balkans into Austria a matter to be sneezed at.

Any one of these battles could have been decisive in the Islamazation of Europe by militant Islam.


40 posted on 10/09/2010 12:05:11 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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