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Study: Doctors overprescribe antibiotics for respiratory infections
University of Chicago Press Journals ^ | September 22, 2010 | Unknown

Posted on 09/22/2010 5:26:39 PM PDT by decimon

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Pressured by patients? Threat of lawsuits?
1 posted on 09/22/2010 5:26:41 PM PDT by decimon
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To: neverdem; DvdMom; grey_whiskers; Pharmboy

Heal thyself ping.


2 posted on 09/22/2010 5:27:23 PM PDT by decimon
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Doubtful. Doctors are not pressured by average people for drugs, when they very well know the drugs won’t do anything.

Sometimes doctors are worried secondary infections (by bacteria) will set in due to the primary viral infection.

Sometimes it is because all doctors today are only trained to treat illnesses with prescription drugs. Person has x, exhibiting symptoms a,b,c, treat with drug y. Hardly have any naturopathic doctors out there.

Sometimes because it’s the quickest way to get a person in and out the door because the doctor is overworked and has a large case load of patients to deal with, and its SOP to throw antibiotics at certain illnesses.


3 posted on 09/22/2010 5:33:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: decimon

Or they can not treat the patients, and the bacterial infections grow stronger and get spread to the community requiring more and more antibiotics to be used.

I say resistance is caused by underuse of antibiotics. Use antibiotics and kill the infections. Culture and make sure the antibiotics are effective for the bug you are treating. (Remember when that was routine?) Quarantine serious infections and use good hygiene and good ventilation systems and you won’t have to worry about resistance.


4 posted on 09/22/2010 5:34:26 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Don’t worry guys,, Obamacare is on the way. Soon there will no longer be a problem of too much medicine being prescribed.


5 posted on 09/22/2010 5:41:00 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: decimon
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6 posted on 09/22/2010 5:42:02 PM PDT by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: decimon

I know over prescribing antibiotics is a problem but the opposite is also true some times.

My Mother was in the hospital and dying from something like pneumonia. They changed doctors because the current one went on vacation. The old Dr. who was just about to retire, gave Mother an antibiotic and she almost immediately starting getting better.


7 posted on 09/22/2010 5:42:58 PM PDT by yarddog
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Doctors are not pressured by average people for drugs...

I recall from prior threads some M.D. FReepers saying otherwise.

8 posted on 09/22/2010 5:46:35 PM PDT by decimon
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I don't think I have ever had a virus infection that did not leave me with a bacterial infection. That's why doctors will prescribe antibiotics, because they know how individual patients will react to a viral infection.
9 posted on 09/22/2010 5:51:40 PM PDT by Ditter
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As a concidence, I have one of these bugs as we speak. It lives in me. Never going to completely get rid of it. My problem is I work too hard, get weak, and when it starts to cool off outside I come down with it. I come down with it every year, for the last 5, about this time of the year. It will last for 4-6 weeks. I feel terrible. Still work too hard. Not enough sleep. Not eating well, or at all.

So if my posts get crazier, or dumber, it’s just the delirium.


10 posted on 09/22/2010 5:52:19 PM PDT by bigheadfred (We built a tower of stone. With our flesh and bone. Just to see him fly .)
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Last year, my daughter kept on getting respiratory viruses. We would wait about 10 days, and it it started getting worse put her on the anti-biotics. It would immediately clear up.

We’re trying prevention this year to see if she gets sick less. She started allergy shots, she’s on lots of vitamin D, she is taking a nasal spray, and a inhaled steroid. It’s too early to see if it’s working.


11 posted on 09/22/2010 5:56:36 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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“Doctors are not pressured by average people for drugs, when they very well know the drugs won’t do anything.”

Untrue. I say this from experience. Most people don’t actually understand the difference between a viral and a bacterial infection. I have to explain the distinction to my patients constantly. Also, many doctors (bad ones) hand out Zithromax like it’s candy just to get people asking for an antibiotic out the door, which only reinforces the idea to those patients that they need an antibiotic for everything.

Know the subject about which you are speaking before you open your mouth.


12 posted on 09/22/2010 5:56:36 PM PDT by The Phantom FReeper (If I knew where Galt's Gulch was hidden, I would be there already.)
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Were I less lazy I’d keep track of who are the medical doctors here.

I recall at least one other saying some of his patients would simply go to another doctor for what he wouldn’t prescribe. Doctor shopping. I guess.


13 posted on 09/22/2010 6:02:00 PM PDT by decimon
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Hard to believe. 30 years ago, believing that would be a benefit, I asked for same and was quickly corrected by the doctor. My asthma is properly corrected these days.


14 posted on 09/22/2010 6:02:14 PM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will continue to have more relevant quality executive experience than B. Obama.)
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If you read my full response you’d see I did say sometimes what you say happens. But nobody can force a doctor to write a prescription. That is bullsh1t and you know it.

I know doctors have to explain viruses are not affected by medicines that attack bateria. That is why you have to sit there and explain it to them. That’s part of the job. It’s also part of keeping a good reputation as a doctor, because other doctors if and when they review your treatments will see you are incorrectly prescribing meds that are not appropriate for what a patient has.


15 posted on 09/22/2010 6:02:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Post 10

Went to two docs last year for this bug. One ended up (after trying a ceplaosporin cause the first tried a amoxicillin) giving me a z-pack. No help.

You got any home remedies, or over the counter advice? I eat a lot of aspirin. Helps with the low grade fever. Should I dose on vitamins?


16 posted on 09/22/2010 6:03:56 PM PDT by bigheadfred (We built a tower of stone. With our flesh and bone. Just to see him fly .)
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cephalosporin. Must be the delirium.


17 posted on 09/22/2010 6:06:18 PM PDT by bigheadfred (We built a tower of stone. With our flesh and bone. Just to see him fly .)
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Too many people just don’t know the difference between a virus and bacteria, and insist upon antibiotics because they know the word. Mothers are especially guilty of this. The problem is receding as awareness increases regarding antibiotic resistance, but this is one of the prime reasons for that resistance. The other reason is failing to complete the course of the drug, leaving bacteria alive that have survived the antibiotic, which then go on to reproduce like crazy, and do not respond to the particular antibiotic to which they were exposed but not killed.

I seriously try to avoid antibiotics myself, for all but the serious infections such as strep or staph. There are perfectly fine, natural antimicrobials that should serve as the front line, starting with garlic. Topical would be tea tree oil. Your kitchen is filled with natural antimicrobials. Salt, sugar, honey, vinegar, two thirds of the average spice rack. Just take the time to learn, and leave the antibiotics for the serious stuff, to help avoid further resistance. We’re down to, what, Cipro and one other now? There’s going to be something ugly of near-plague proportions if we don’t reign it in now, and conserve the remaining effective medications we have.


18 posted on 09/22/2010 6:06:18 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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Your kitchen is filled with natural antimicrobials.

Thanks for reminding me, I just dumped some cinnamon powder into my coffee.

You're probably right though it looks like vitamin D should probably be the first line of defense.

19 posted on 09/22/2010 6:14:40 PM PDT by decimon
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My asthma is properly corrected these days.

Corrected or controlled?

20 posted on 09/22/2010 6:17:03 PM PDT by decimon
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