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Charlie Chan: A Stereotype and a Hero
New York Times ^
| August 10, 2010
| CHARLES McGRATH
Posted on 08/11/2010 10:38:53 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Yeah, whatever. Someone looking for something to feel umbrage over will find it no matter what.
I'm in the middle of a Charlie Chan Netflix run and I found it pretty amazing that at that time, the Chan brothers and sisters were so westernized.
FWIW, the guy who played Jimmy Chan in the post WWII era films (Reno, Dead Men) later became the legendary Hop Sing on Bonanza.
Awesome.
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posted on
08/11/2010 10:48:13 AM PDT
by
End Times Sentinel
(In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
To: nickcarraway
I love the Charlie Chan films and have almost all of them. But the story of the real Chan is interesting too. Why don’t some of these guys get a script together about the real guy instead of b*tching and moaning?
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posted on
08/11/2010 10:48:21 AM PDT
by
ReneeLynn
(Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
To: nickcarraway
I smell a script being sold to Hollywood.
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posted on
08/11/2010 10:49:44 AM PDT
by
Nachum
(The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
To: Owl_Eagle
And for all the complaining those films gave a lot of Asian actors work. They weren’t stereotypes.
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posted on
08/11/2010 10:51:10 AM PDT
by
ReneeLynn
(Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
To: ReneeLynn
Wasn't Charlie Chan the HERO in these stories?
As in made the other people,such as "white" criminals look stupid in the end?
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posted on
08/11/2010 10:54:16 AM PDT
by
hoosierham
(Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
To: nickcarraway
To many Asian-Americans, Charlie Chan is an offensive stereotype, another sort of Uncle Tom. Charlie Chan was just doing the work for "the man" who couldn't solve crimes for himself?
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posted on
08/11/2010 10:56:20 AM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
To: nickcarraway
One that doesn't know any better has to read ALL THE WAY to the FOURTH paragraph to read:
Mr. Huang gives an equally full account of Chans movie history and of the actor with whom he was most memorably associated: a Swede named Warner Oland...
I am surprised that the NYT (mis)used the term "Uncle Tom" and failed to invoke the name of Al Jolson and directly use the term "Blackface" (though "yellowface" is used in the last paragraph).
I had a mystery writing class as a senior in college. Charlie Chan films were one of the featured classics studied... and I heard ZERO protest from any of the students in a very ethnicly diverse class (Engineering School).
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posted on
08/11/2010 10:58:00 AM PDT
by
Rodamala
To: ReneeLynn
I believe Charlie Chan was a swede...
To: nickcarraway
I will buy it, sounds velly intelesting.
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posted on
08/11/2010 11:03:20 AM PDT
by
longfellow
(Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
To: nickcarraway
Sign posted outside Chinese laundry: "Two Wongs will make it white"....
To: nickcarraway
Hadn’t heard of Frank Chin
So I look into his wikipedia entry, born in Berkely,CA... writes stories that contain asian stereotypes... has worked with Japanese-Americans who resisted the draft in the US in WWII...
Sounds a bit left of center.
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posted on
08/11/2010 11:05:27 AM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
To: nickcarraway; Slings and Arrows
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posted on
08/11/2010 11:13:09 AM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
To: a fool in paradise
"Sounds a bit left of center."
Born in Berkely Ca. should have given you that clue... : )
To: Old Teufel Hunden
Said he moved away but he moved back to the bay area and then attended Berkley for school.
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posted on
08/11/2010 11:19:12 AM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
To: Old Teufel Hunden
San Fransicko has first generation Chinese immigrants protesting against Communism and US born asian and white liberal college kids protesting FOR Communism.
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posted on
08/11/2010 11:20:29 AM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
To: nickcarraway
I love those old detective stories so much better than the modern ones.
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posted on
08/11/2010 11:24:05 AM PDT
by
MrEdd
(Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
To: rolling_stone
Warner Oland was a Swede, I think. Sydney Toler, I don’t know. I may have that backwards.
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posted on
08/11/2010 11:42:41 AM PDT
by
ReneeLynn
(Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
To: ReneeLynn; rolling_stone
Nevermind, just saw the bit from the article.
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posted on
08/11/2010 11:47:48 AM PDT
by
ReneeLynn
(Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
To: hoosierham
Whenever I read complaints like this I think, ‘Look at the Three Stooges, Marx Brothers, Gilligan, W.C. Fields and look to, if you know Asian Martial Arts cinema to the way whites are portrayed there. We’re always the bad guys or the stupid missionaries.’ The Asians have noting to brag about when it comes to fair portrayal of whites. But, at least Charlie Chan has better writing.
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posted on
08/11/2010 11:52:19 AM PDT
by
ReneeLynn
(Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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