Posted on 07/19/2010 5:16:34 PM PDT by SJackson
Nope, Punt Guns.
I read of an observed case in Africa where hyenas went on a rampage killing Thompson’s gazelle, far more than they could eat.
I personally would NEVER go hunting, unless forced by circumstance; My only rules are that the animal/s not be endangered, and the death quick.
We shot Sand Hill cranes for goose practice on the alkali flats of western FResno County in the 40s...
Apparently you have never owned or observed a cat in action.
Apparently you have never owned or observed a cat in action
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In 2005 I adopted two rescue cats after my cat of almost 13 years had died from diabetes complications. Eighteen years ago he was rescued by a couple of teenagers who saved as many as possible from a boatyard in Fort Lauderdale (he was too tiny to run) when the owners decided to eliminate boatyard cats...(yacht owners don’t like paw prints on wet varnish). I was born with a great empathy for innocent and helpless creatures. They act on instinct whereas man has the power to reason. The way I see it killing helpless creatures makes up for masculine inadequacies (gotta get that testosterone flowing)so you don’t have to buy Viagra.
If you need to hunt food for the table, that’s a different story..in that case you do what you have to do.
I very rarely eat meat preferring grains, dairy products, veggies and fruit.
I don’t eat veal, fish, lamb, pork, etc, but once in a while I love a steak or burger and chicken if I have to.
End of story.
Man is the only one to whom the torture and death of his fellow creatures is amusing in itself. (James Anthony Froude)
It is factually untrue. That was the reason I posted. I eat only meat and cheese. I do not eat vegatibles.
The death of an animal is the worst part of hunting or raising domesticated animals for meat. We don’t “enjoy” that part at all. Anyone who actually enjoys the death part is a sick, twisted individual.
Anyone who thinks people who farm or hunt and “enjoy” the death part is ignorant. It seems this would include you. I’m not saying this as an insult, because being ignorant is NOT the same as being stupid.
Farming is an excellent lifestyle. It teaches a person how precious life is. Farmers, especially those from the now almost extinct “family farm”, enjoy a quality of life that few of us are able to experience anymore, and it’s a shame.
Living intimately with nature, with its plants and animals (wild and domestic), having close and extended family and other people from the small community, weather and other natural phenomenon (both good and bad), hard work, success and failure, and birth, sickness, life and death - it teaches us what life is all about. The further from nature a people is, the more seperated from life they are. Living intimately with nature teaches us about life more than any classroom ever could.
We raise animals or hunt so that we can eat, or we hire people to do it for us. If it was possible to eat animals without killing them then we would. Taking a life is not easy. It’s even harder when you see the animal alive and at peace prior to aiming your weapon, and even harder yet when you witness the birth of that animal, and watch it grow (and learn and play and devolop a personality) over the years, and then comes the day you have to kill it. IT’S NOT ENJOYABLE. Ok? It’s not.
Unlike city folk and grocery store only folk, those who obtain their own food are more appreciative of where their food comes from, especially those who are completely self-sufficient and rely on the land for their very survival. They raised their food or grew it, and they killed it or harvested it, and they cooked it or preserved it. They are intimately familiar with the process from beginning to end, unlike those who rely on grocery stores or worse yet, packaged food or a restaurant, where they don’t even cook it let alone grow/raise/hunt it.
Modern industrial agriculture allows people to be vegetarians now, or even vegans if they choose. Good for them. But for billions of people over the past thousands of years, and to this day in much of the world, that has not been an option. We need protein or we will die. Enjoy your freedom but don’t look down on those of us that have a natural preference for meat, whether from the store or from our own efforts. And certainly don’t claim that we enjoy killing animals, cause you’d be very wrong. The rest of it, yes, we enjoy it, but not the killing part.
Please do not stick your nose up at people who raise animals for meat, or at those who eat thanks to a successful hunt. The thrill is in the before and after, not the “during” of the kill. To think otherwise is ignorance.
To think otherwise, after having been informed, would be sick.
I grew up in a very small town in Connecticut across the road from a dairy farm. I am fully aware of what you speak of and have no problem with farming. This post was about killing Sandhill cranes and the comments were filled with joking and good-ole-boy smart a$$ remarks, which I found offensive. Yes, maybe I’m overly sensitive, but many years ago I had a cat who was killed by a hunter. In the future my best bet is to simply ignore these types of posts.
Theres one of the problems, you dealing with nesting pairs and we’re dealing with migrating flocks. On the salt lakes west of town theres close to 50,000 sandhills roosting and everyday they fly out and do allot of damage to the maize and corn crops, unchecked they can wipe a field out and put a farmer out of business.
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