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‘Star Trek' franchise an homage to humanist philosophy
Worcester (MA) Telegram ^ | 06/29/2010 | Bronislaus B. Kush

Posted on 06/30/2010 9:05:26 AM PDT by iowamark

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Susan Sackett, center, who was personal executive assistant to Trek franchise creator Gene Roddenberry, recently spoke to the Greater Worcester Humanists group.


1 posted on 06/30/2010 9:05:32 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

I didn’t bother reading the whole thing. What’s the name of the book she’s flogging? /s


2 posted on 06/30/2010 9:13:31 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: iowamark

I remember the original Star Trek also dealt with Fascism. There was an episode where a friend of Kirk went down to a planet and tried to use the so called “good aspects of the Third Reich” to a primitive planet only to find that it went the same ways as Hitler’s Germany.


3 posted on 06/30/2010 9:13:55 AM PDT by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: dragonblustar

Nah. I just thought Spock was cool.


4 posted on 06/30/2010 9:16:32 AM PDT by freepertoo
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5 posted on 06/30/2010 9:17:28 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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Ms. Sackett said Roddenberry was so resolute about religion that he refused suggestions to add a chaplain to the crew of the starship Enterprise.

She said Star Trek was imbued with what she called the “IDIC Philosophy,” namely, infinite diversity in infinite combination.

Ms. Sackett, with the aid of film clips, said that “The Return of the Archons,” from the original series, was a good example of how Mr. Roddenberry employed elements of humanism in his works.

In that episode, a planet's population follows, in a zombie-like manner, a mysterious cult-like leader, who allows no divergent viewpoints.

Hypocrite.

6 posted on 06/30/2010 9:21:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: iowamark; Revolting cat!
Ms. Sackett also noted that the Star Trek series' principled “prime directive,” that humans should not influence or interfere with other races and peoples, was actually a snipe at American involvement in Vietnam, something that television network censors never picked up on.

So it was an indictment of international Communists and the Weather Underground, Jane Fonda, et al imposing Communism on the South Vietnamese?!!!

7 posted on 06/30/2010 9:23:13 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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“Rationality was the key. … There was no recourse to the supernatural,” she said.

Apparently she didn't watch the show. OR she thinks that a guy with a super-mind who can mind-control other people, and a race of people who can put people into dream-states where they live their lives, are not "supernatural".

And she apparently missed Kahn.

It's pretty funny because there weren't really "religious" themes, but it was clear from watching the show that without religion, it really was science FICTION.

My favorite being that for some strange reason, they had pretty much infinite power, and yet everybody was still working hard, but supposedly for "personal fulfilment". So they had restaurants even though nobody needed money -- so did people just come and eat for free, and how did that work?

Once in a while they'd bring somebody from that past to remind them that they weren't really as advanced as they thought.

8 posted on 06/30/2010 9:23:13 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: iowamark; Revolting cat!
Ms. Sackett also noted that the Star Trek series' principled “prime directive,” that humans should not influence or interfere with other races and peoples, was actually a snipe at American involvement in Vietnam, something that television network censors never picked up on.

If Vietnamese aren't humans, can she say what race they ARE?

9 posted on 06/30/2010 9:24:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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Yes, one of the many times when they conveniently ignored the prime directive, making her comment about that aspect also humorous in her ignorance.

The Prime Directive was a slap at those who believed that you couldn’t interfere, that you should live an isolationist life.


10 posted on 06/30/2010 9:24:36 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: iowamark

"Get a Life!"

11 posted on 06/30/2010 9:24:52 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Well I feel better now after I read she bad mouthed ‘Deep Space Nine’ which was my VERY favorite of all the series.

Major Keri Nerys: "Thats the thing about faith, If you don't have it you can't understand it. And if you do, no explanation is necessary."
"Sometimes the only thing more dangerous than a question is an answer." Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 208
Quark: "Let me tell you something about humans, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people become as nasty and as violent as the most blood thirsty Klingon."
Garak: "The truth is just an excuse for a lack of imagination"

12 posted on 06/30/2010 9:25:31 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: a fool in paradise

I always thought they simply used the Doctor to play the role of Chaplain.


13 posted on 06/30/2010 9:25:43 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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bump


14 posted on 06/30/2010 9:26:07 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (If I don't like you, it's most likely your culture or your ideology that pissed me off.)
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The guy was a former teacher of Kirk’s, a university professor who tried to implement Naziism... sounds awfully familiar, don’t it ? The educated elites can make leftism work if only THEY are in charge...


15 posted on 06/30/2010 9:26:17 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: iowamark

Pretty sad how athesists have hijacked the term “humanist”. The humanism that rose during the Renaissance had a strong Christian flavor to it. Someone like St. Thoman More and Erasmus, both characterized as humanists, would be dismayed the terms is now synonymous with atheism. Roddenberry was not very “rational” when he described the future Federation as having no monetary system and people did not work for a wage. The question I always had is how was Kirk allocated the nice hi-rise apartment overlooking SF Bay or how did Bones buy him those antique glasses and first edition of Tale of Two Cities from Wrath of Khan.


16 posted on 06/30/2010 9:27:23 AM PDT by C19fan
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So can we now ban “secular humanism” in schools now as it too is a religion? One that posits all men as “gods” in charge of their own destiny? She certainly presents it as incompatible with any other religious viewpoint.


17 posted on 06/30/2010 9:27:53 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: dfwgator
"Get a Life!"

That was a classic skit.

I knew people like the ones asking the questions in the skit when I was in high school.

They gathered at one of their homes every afternoon to watch Star Trek reruns at 5:00 and they all had these secret Star Trek names they had bestowed on each other.

They knew every freakin' line of every freakin' episode by heart.

18 posted on 06/30/2010 9:29:24 AM PDT by Allegra (My seventh chakra is oppressed.)
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Ms. Sackett said that Star Trek, like humanism, promoted ethics, social justice and reason, and rejected religious dogma and the supernatural.

Welllll, let's see:

Did the New Testament preach Forgiveness?

Did the New Testament preach Charity?

Did the New Testament preach Tolerance and Diversity (Good Samaritan)?

Did the New Testament preach Truth?

Did the New Testament preach Faith?

Seems to us the New Testament where this Word came down to Earth in human form (as in "humanitarian"), not the Old Testament of Fear, Superstition, Revenge, Wealth, and Authoritarianism, is quite the paragon of Reason.

Apparently Ms Sackett, along with about 80 per cent of the rest of humanity including many clergy, don't have a clue. Gene Roddenberry himself? Who knows?

Johnny Suntrade

19 posted on 06/30/2010 9:31:03 AM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: iowamark

The less involved Roddenbury was with a series, the better it performed.

The original trek prospered under gene koon.

the next generation only avoided cancellation after the second season ouster of roddenbury.


20 posted on 06/30/2010 9:31:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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