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Leaked Docs Show Apple Knows About iPhone 4’s Flaws [REPORT]
Mashable.com ^ | 29 Jun 2010 | Jolie O'Dell

Posted on 06/29/2010 8:07:03 PM PDT by for-q-clinton

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To: Swordmaker; for-q-clinton

“Your assertion, based on the complaints of a few of the 1.7 million purchasers of the iPhone, is baseless. In my opinion it’s FUD.”

FUD? Wow no propaganda here folks, move right along.


41 posted on 06/30/2010 3:51:40 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dr_who

LOL -— Maybe the Sex Pootle.


42 posted on 06/30/2010 3:52:22 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Communism has arrived in Washington)
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To: Yaelle
Just because the customer service people are giving a line out about the iphone 4 doesn’t mean it’s not a fantastic phone. I love it and have not noticed ANY difference in coverage or calling or reception from my previous iPhone.

Remember too that in these first weeks, you can return your iPhone for a full refund if you are not happy. A class action lawsuit is just stupid at this point (well, not for the attorneys).

I'm not even sure that it's smart for the attorneys; it would seem that you could get debarred by proving in court that you are a shyster - and suing someone for inadequate performance of a product at a time when you can get a full, no questions asked refund sounds like you have crossed that line.
I'm not sure even John Edwards could get away with that one!
Now if it was so clearly defective that nobody wanted to keep it, you might at least keep out of trouble, I suppose - but you yourself testify that that just isn't the case.

43 posted on 06/30/2010 3:52:51 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ( DRAFT PALIN)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

“It’s quite a trick to make 100% profit on anything; that implies that you are selling a product you are getting for free. And paying nothing for plant, equipment, or employee salaries. “

Well if you pay cheap chinese engineers to do testing, near slave labor to manufacture, cheap parts you can keep the costs down. So if you pay $50 to have it made and sell it for $700 you do make a nice profit.


44 posted on 06/30/2010 3:54:48 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier; TomServo; for-q-clinton

“But is he a VILE, GD EVIL LIAR who has sinned against Apple? ;)”

Nope, that moniker is reserved for you Puget.


45 posted on 06/30/2010 3:57:02 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Yaelle; for-q-clinton

“Just because the customer service people are giving a line out about the iphone 4 doesn’t mean it’s not a fantastic phone.”

So you’re ok with customer service of any company misleading their customers and hiding issues?


46 posted on 06/30/2010 3:58:40 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: catnipman

Problem you have with returning the phone is that you’re still locked into an exceedingly expensive 2-year wireless commitment.

The gadget acts as the lure for the real racket.


47 posted on 06/30/2010 3:59:51 AM PDT by sbMKE
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To: TXnMA
Actually, you'll be surprised how much electricity your body generates. You need that electrical charge to keep the heart pumping, for starters.

Interestingly, if they had just covered that antenna with a thin sheet of plastic this problem would never exist. As such, because your hands touch the bare metal of the antenna, it interacts with the electrical charge from your body transmitted through the skin of your hands and causes the reception quality to drop dramatically.

48 posted on 06/30/2010 4:32:07 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: driftdiver
“It’s quite a trick to make 100% profit on anything; that implies that you are selling a product you are getting for free. And paying nothing for plant, equipment, or employee salaries. “
Well if you pay cheap chinese engineers to do testing, near slave labor to manufacture, cheap parts you can keep the costs down. So if you pay $50 to have it made and sell it for $700 you do make a nice profit.
. . . but not 100% of the $700.

And even that profit applies only after the cost of the development of the phone has been defrayed - and if you think that cost is excessive you have the same recourse I do - that of not buying the phone. Which, at $700 plus ATT contract, I have no intention of doing.

But that's just you and me; we don't get to tell Swordmaker he can't.
All of which is beside the fundamental point that Apple's critics used to gloat that AAPL was going out of business - and now they're complaining that AAPL is not going out of business.

49 posted on 06/30/2010 4:33:31 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ( DRAFT PALIN)
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To: driftdiver

May I ask one simple question of you sir. Do you own ANY apple device, Iphone, Mac, Ipod, any? If not, why dear Lord do you constantly crash in on Apple posts and bash anything Apple. If we pay for our Apple items, use them, and enjoy them, What the hell is it to you. GO AWAY!


50 posted on 06/30/2010 4:37:03 AM PDT by Airwinger (Semper Fi, Time to use that motto for our Constitution. (ALWAYS FAITHFUL!))
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To: Swordmaker
Santayana was right. For three years running we've seen the same pattern:
  1. Apple introduces a new iPhone.
  2. Stampede-like crowds rush to grab the first ones off the production line.
  3. Sour-grapes media sources breathlessly report "critical" HW issues. Recall rumors circulate.
  4. Supply problems ease as the surge demand is passed and production ramps. Apple issues minor software service update to correct a few small introductory issues (which in retrospect were wildly overblown).
  5. Forget and repeat next year.
We're clearly in stage 3, which should last for another month or so. Save this post for the iPhone 5 launch next year. The cycle will be the same.
51 posted on 06/30/2010 5:12:53 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: uncommonsense
Apple is a victim of their own hype, where demand from the Apple faithfuls outstripped their beta testing and quality process.

Apple fans have always been extremely critical of Apple products, more than any other. They expect a lot from Apple and feel let down when things aren't perfect -- even if they're still better than you'd get from any other manufacturer.

For example, some Cubes had cracks in the case. These were very small hairline, surface-only cracks that had no effect on the structural integrity of the case. Nobody would have noticed them on the plastic of a Dell, but they were on the clear case of an Apple, and they caused an uproar. Now that Apple has a bigger fanbase, and more media coverage, the uproar is a lot louder.

53 posted on 06/30/2010 5:54:45 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: driftdiver
So if you pay $50 to have it made and sell it for $700 you do make a nice profit.

I think the parts for the low-end iPhone were around $180. Of course that doesn't count corporate overhead, OS development, Apple Store upkeep and employees, patent licensing fees, or hundreds of millions of dollars spent to purchase the two chip design companies that turned out the A4 processor.

54 posted on 06/30/2010 6:00:10 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: WVKayaker; Admin Moderator

WVKayaker, do you really think that graphic is appropriate for a family friendly environment?


55 posted on 06/30/2010 6:02:22 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Airwinger

Why do people like you constantly crash windows threads? And yes I own apple products.


56 posted on 06/30/2010 6:03:49 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 4rcane
we need a windfall profit tax on apple to be honest. They make over 50-100% profit

Was that supposed to be sarcasm?

If not, I think you took a wrong turn somewhere on the interwebs. Perhaps you'd be happier at DU?

57 posted on 06/30/2010 6:09:24 AM PDT by zeugma (Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam)
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To: for-q-clinton

I would have thought that everyone would know by now not to rush out and buy new technology until the bugs are exposed.

But I guess it’s the dummies who do rush out that take the hit for those of us with common sense.


58 posted on 06/30/2010 6:12:09 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: Swordmaker

I wouldn’t expect the applea zealots to admit there’s a problem. But denying this is an issue is just denying reality. For those up to speed in the gaming world it’s like when Microsoft fans were denying the xbox 360 had an issue that causes the system to freeze when it first launched. It took a while but Microsoft eventually extended the warranty to 3 years on the sucker.


59 posted on 06/30/2010 6:14:32 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Solson

That was pretty funny...and true!


60 posted on 06/30/2010 6:20:58 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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