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55% Of Americans Say 'Revolution' If Obama Somehow Gets New UN Gun Ban Treaty Ratified In the U.S.
U.S.E. News ^ | June 12th | U.S. of Earth

Posted on 06/15/2010 1:43:54 PM PDT by DebraAI

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To: Travis McGee
"Breaking Point" ping.
161 posted on 06/16/2010 2:59:29 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: mad_as_he$$

“Thanks for reminding me to post the methods of defeating Predator drones.”

That should be interesting ... especialy to the folks in Waziristan.


162 posted on 06/16/2010 4:46:48 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: PIF
Not to worry I will control who has access. Just want it on the net for posterity.
163 posted on 06/16/2010 6:48:23 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Sometimes you have to go to dark places to get to the light....)
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To: mad_as_he$$
“I will control who has access. Just want it on the net for posterity”

HAHAHAHHAHHHHAAA ... you are funny! If the Pentagon computers can be hacked what makes you think your files on the Internet (of all places) are invulnerable?

164 posted on 06/17/2010 2:53:37 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: Dayman

I apologize for putting it that way.

What I should of said is that you could cause people to think they are powerless against the forces of tyranny and should simply relent.


165 posted on 06/17/2010 4:39:57 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: PIF
Believe it or not I use more secure servers than the Pentagon AND you have to know where to look for to start - the Pentagon and banks have front doors. My stuff does not.
166 posted on 06/17/2010 5:10:36 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Sometimes you have to go to dark places to get to the light....)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Despite your claims, if your servers are connected to the internet, they are not secure by definiton... see NSA SOP on computers, security, and the internet. (be sure to use 256 bit or higher encryption).


167 posted on 06/17/2010 5:57:36 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
"a treaty can't override the constitution. "

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Didn't stop the morons in the nation and the electoral college from electing someone who probably is not.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Has not stopped all kinds of unconstitutional gun laws.

168 posted on 06/17/2010 7:41:44 PM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: PIF

Well, I was in the business of finding and fixing security leaks to the internet for abotu 5 years. I know more about it than you seem to think AND the government was one of our cistomers so we taught them some things.

What you say is true, if it is on the net it is vulnerable. However, there are several way of dealing with that. We passed up 256 bit encryption a long time ago. Clients do not like to use higher becasue it is slower on a daily basis. Some have learned the hard way. Remeber I do not have to stay online at the first sign of an attack. Physically dump the connection after one unathorized access attempt and it is by definition secure. That is a luxury that a business or the goobermint does not have. We had a Chi-com attack last year and dropped all the connections to servers full of pure garbage. They were so curious that they spent about two hours downloading everything on them while we traced their paths back. Had then loaded with old drawings to obsolete stuff from general industry and gigabits of scanned documents of things like report cards for kids long dead and test scores from sheet readers from the fifties. Really fun stuff.


169 posted on 06/17/2010 7:47:11 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Sometimes you have to go to dark places to get to the light....)
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To: wolfcreek
"THEY WILL HAVE TO KILL ME."

Damned straight.

170 posted on 06/17/2010 7:48:27 PM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: mad_as_he$$; wolfcreek
They will be more than happy to kill you as an example. 3am on your front lawn in-front of your wife and kids and then your home will be burned to the ground.

But of course sometimes they're the ones who die in their own homes.

171 posted on 06/25/2010 9:50:11 AM PDT by archy (Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam)
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To: archy
★ FREEDOM!★

★ Estimated Value – PRICELESS! ★

172 posted on 07/23/2010 1:09:51 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER OathKeeper III We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: DebraAI
The article at the link provides incorrect information regarding what it takes to (legally) amend the United States Constitution.

For amendments desired by congress, a 2/3 vote of BOTH houses is required to PROPOSE the amendment -- but said amendment is not valid and is not part of the United States Constitution until it is ratified by 3/4 of the states. (And who here thinks there is any real chance of THAT happening with an amendment that guts the original 2nd?)

Even if Obama manages to get a "gun banning treaty" ratified in the U.S. senate it will be null and void as far as our gun rights go. His administration cannot legally impose any UN gun ban in the People of the United States.

That's not to say he and his proposed "civilian national security force" would not some day try to do it illegally, but I think THAT really would provoke a 2nd American Revolution.

173 posted on 07/23/2010 5:43:28 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: grobdriver

100% incorrect.

No treaty can change the contents of the United States Constitution.


174 posted on 07/23/2010 5:45:04 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: WayneS

Treaty it is not an Amendment. Treaty need only be ratified by the Senate. The House has nothing to do with Treaties.


175 posted on 07/23/2010 2:44:31 PM PDT by DebraAI
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