Posted on 06/11/2010 5:30:09 AM PDT by iowamark
No one in Texas has egos the size of the typical californicator.
Well, if the chinks joined, the big 12 is going to be a powerhouse in gymanstics. With or without Cororodo!
Having observed both I would disagree with that.
The new conference name PAC-16 doesn’t really make any sense. I think the should also rename the conference. Something that describes the geographica area from texas and Oklahoma thrrough the west coast. Bring back the “SOUTWEST CONFERENCE”
>> Bring back the “SOUTWEST CONFERENCE”
heh... I could go for that.
But what about Washington, Oregon, and Oregon State?
Are you an Ag? During football season UT & A&M talk more trash than anybody else, but when it comes to this kind of thing, we are one.
I mean, look at it from the Aggies point of view - they’ll go anywhere they have to to be able to (try to) kick TU’s ass. If that means more TV revenue, then why wouldn’t they?
Correction: No one exists who has a bigger ego than Lane Kiffen.
Very good take. It’s insane that this is happening because management couldn’t manage the golden goose. I figured it was because it was flyover country and nobody on the leftist-commie coasts cared. But this is a terrible reason to realign.
Re the colleges - you could be right - I’ve never heard anybody else bring up those ideas. Could be a lot of schools with well-known, long-held names becoming “Big State U at Bumfu(r)k”
I am an Aggie and married one too. Part of me misses the Southwest Conference.
At one time I thought this. However, I'm starting to hear rumblings that A&M is getting tired of being UT's "little brother." They've got 47,000 students and are top flight in many academic areas, especially engineering and hard sciences. One of the things that hacks the Aggies off most is that they consider UT their big rival, but UT considers Oklahoma their big rival.
Especially with the recession looming, I can see the Texas legislature getting involved. Before anyone says "why are politicians getting involved?" let's remember that these are state colleges funded by legislative acts. Right now, if A&M could split off and go to the SEC, I think they'd do it. They've already made noises about not liking the Pac 10 scenario because of two thousand mile road trips three or four times a season. Culturally, A&M is a lot more SEC than PAC 10. I don't see the Texas legislature letting Tech get left out in the rain, though, and to get Tech into the mix there has to be a package deal. There's too much potential for money loss. Baylor may end up being collateral damage, as TCU, SMU, and Rice were during the SWC break up. These were all private colleges, so their loss of revenue did not affect the state as much. Baylor was only in the mix for the Big 12 because the governor at the time was Ann Richards, a Baylor grad. This time, Baylor probably doesn't have the clout to tag along.
Thanks, I cover Baylor football, so I have a real interest in this. I like photographing Colt McCoy, Sam Bradford and Suh a lot more than some kid I never heard of from a Div II college.
After my post 50, I found this on the FoxNews web site:
The headline says: Sources: Texas, Texas A&M may head in different directions. It’s speculating that the Ags might go to the SEC and Texas head to the Pac 10.
Yeah, me too... but, having gotten to play the ags, the okies, and Nebraska to boot has made this conference work for me. Moreover, Colorado used to kick our asses, very respectable, and you could never count out Kansas or OK State. This has been a damn good conference. I don’t see why it has to break up.
The SWC, on the other hand, was doomed when SMU got the death penalty. But if SMU got the death penalty, then Miami should have gotten it too.
Well, I’d hate to see that. I don’t think Texas holds OK to be one iota a more hated rival than A&M. It’s just that A&M’s football program needs a renovation. They used to be freaking good and kick our asses all the time. You know, with the dedicated fan base that they have, they OWE it to the fans to put a quality product on the field.
Whatever the case, I’m sure Texas and the Aggies would still play each other on Thanksgiving, and maybe it would be an even bigger game, with a bowl atmosphere if they were in different conferences. One reason that the UT OK matchup might seem bigger is because of the neutral site, the fair, and that it’s earlier in the season — oftentimes, a lot has been decided already when the horns play the ags.
This is going to be interesting.
As an alum of the CU graduate program I can only laugh.
Chet Edwards, who happens to have both A&M and Baylor in his district, wants public hearings before any changes are made. That's mostly because he wants to force a package deal that includes Baylor. However, Rick Perry said the state is staying out of it, and he's the only one who has the authority to call a legislative session. Perry, being an Aggie, is giving the Ags free reign to make their own decision.
There are two schools of thought if the Ags go to the SEC. One is that they'll still play the annual game with Texas, which goes back something like 105 years. The other is that if the Aggies break to the SEC the blood will be so bad that the rivalry will end. This happened when Arkansas left the old SWC.
The Arkansas rivalry was immortalized becausae of the great shootout. But the UT — A&M rivalry is so much deeper because of all the families where some went Texas, some went to College Station. I think there would be literally riots in the streets if they did this. The Aggies would have to find a new fight song, for pete’s sake, as it’s all about beating Texas. I can see how they yearn to get out from under big brother’s shadow... but I can’t see them destroying the family entirely.
I’m with you. I went to UT, but have a nephew in the Corps of Cadets, and my daughter is looking at getting her master’s at A&M.
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