Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread #21

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[Mike Darancette]

There are many unanswered questions and it appears this second murder was preventable had van der Sloot been arrested. The FBI has a lot of explaining to do. Why did they wait? What did they know and when? Why were they not at least following him? They knew he committed a crime as of May 10.

And now Beth Holloway's money was used - extorted - to make the unthinkable happen."

I'll bet the FBI put up the $15,000 and the sting went bad. The FBI not only let the Peruvian Girl get killed the FBI paid for it.

[PJ-Comix]

Are criminal trials televised in Peru?

[hennie pennie]

I actually wonder if he lied to her and told her there was an after hours high stakes poker game in a hotel room he knew about -- so that he could get her into the hotel room and rob her of her 5 thousand dollars winnings.

Her ex-girlfriend in Miami told the press this morning that Stephany would NEVER have gone to any hotel room with a man, as she'd be afraid of them murdering her as a lesbian, or kidnapping her for her dad to pay a large ransom.

I seriously wonder if he gave her roofies, and she died -- and when he realized she was dead, he went utterly BERSERK.

I doubt that they could ever prove that with an autopsy, because the beating bruises and the stab wounds, and whatever damage happened to the eye would have occurred to close to the time of her demise.

[GOP Poet]

he is clearly a narcissist

[hennie pennie]

Yes Mike, this new information about the case just makes me cringe; I can't begin to imagine how the Holloways and Beth Twitty feel right now, I mean this is an utter nightmare, right?

I am thinking, though, that maybe the ARUBAN LEOS ratted out the sting to Joran and that's why he split quick, with the cash.

WHY should I think this of the ARUBAN LEOs???

Why shouldn't I?

[PJ-Comix]

Greta to talk about this case in just a few minutes...

[girlscout]

Thanks for the ping HP. I’m just speechless right now. What a freakin dirtbag. Poor Beth!

[hennie pennie]

Thanks PJ, but I’m not sure that I can listen, this whole idea of Joran taking off with the first installment of the extortion demand, of the FBI’s 15 grand getting him into the Latin American Poker Tour.... I’m not sure I can watch Greta, this is just... Cringe Material.

[penelopesire]

OMG! So now Beth has to suffer all over again knowing her money was used in the commission of this cold blooded murder! The FBI needs to answer for this botched sting.

[stlnative]

This is completely F’d up. Now I wonder if he really did plan to kill this lastest female as a way to get back at Beth. Kinda like you gave me the $15K Beth and I am going to use your money to carry out my next kill and my next kill will be on your shoulders because you gave me the $15k.

[Canadian Outrage]

This so called man is a complete animal and the Arubans knew it all the time. They need to be prosecuted also. I am so angered over this situation. Do y’all know that this poor girl was beaten so badly she was unrecongnizable and one of her eyeballs was beaten out? He needs the death penalty but Peru doesn’t have it. Fortunately I’m sure the Peru prisioners can do the job. He doesn’t deserve to live. I’d like to choke his msother right now and his father, well, he obviously is burning in hell. CO

[Canadian Outrage]

The FBI however had no control over what Aruba did? Aruba gave them NO ground whatsoever. I’m not quite as willing to come down on the FBI as you seem to be. I think America wants justice for one of its own but you are dealing with international law and you see how well that works. The Netherlands is pathetic to say the least. CO

[Lakeshark]

CO!

How are you? Long time no see.

[RGVTx]

Has anyone seen any info on Anita's response to her sporter’s latest crime?

I heard Jossy Mansur say it was big news in Aruba.
Some folks on Aruba are angry, even previous Joran supporters, according to Jossy. I wonder if Anita is feeling any heat?

[RGVTx]

Joran van der Sloot led a high-stakes life in South America
Posted on Thursday, 06.03.10

When reached at her home — a one-story cinder block house painted mustard yellow — Anita van der Sloot sounded composed and attempted to politely dismiss any inquiries about her son.

She has two other sons, Valentijn and Sebastian. She is now a widow. Her husband died suddenly last February while playing tennis.

``I don’t know anything,’’ Anita told The Herald. ``I haven’t been in contact with Joran for a long time ...

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/03/1662456_p2/joran-van-der-sloot-led-a-high.html

[Mike Darancette]

At the very least the FBI knew of the payment (though I truly believe that it was FBI money) and let funds be electronically transferred to a foreign bank without having the suspect in sight or control.

[amom]

"Van der Sloot...will leave at 8:00 a.m. and will be sent by plane to Arica,.

Once in Arica, he will be moved to the border with Peru, where he will arrested by Peru police, reports Chilean daily La Tercera.

The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Peru expressed that the Dutch citizen will be arrested as soon as he enters Peru..."

Latest News in Peru
BREAKING NEWS! | 3 June, 2010 [ 22:59 ]
Chile decides to expel Joran van der Sloot, Peru prepares to arrest him
LivinginPeru.com
Isabel Guerra
http://www.livinginperu.com/news-12362-breaking-news-chile-decides-expel-joran-van-der-sloot-peru-prepares-arrest-him

[1066AD]

One theory:
He entered the poker tournament hoping, of course, to win big, needing money to live. Instead he chatted up a girl who had won $5K or so, somehow enticed her back to his room (spiked drink?) where she maybe put up a fight both for the money and perhaps because she wouldn’t have sex (she was apparently a recently ‘out’ lesbian) & Joran then lost it and went pyscho on her.

[1066AD]

Very active board on the subject (and other poor missing souls):
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=11.0

[Liberty Valance]

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