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Fortifications on Gournia Debunk Myth of Peaceful Minoan Society
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| Tuesday, May 4, 2010
| Owen Jarus
Posted on 05/04/2010 5:03:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: JoeProBono
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05/05/2010 3:53:59 AM PDT
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wolfcreek
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
To: JoeProBono; SunkenCiv
Snakes, it had to be snakes . . . .
To: wildbill
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05/05/2010 4:29:36 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
To: Verginius Rufus
You’re right, Blegen’s find at Pylos — literally on the first day of his dig there — meant there was a large body of published (undeciphered) Linear B texts for the first time, and that is what Ventris used. By the time he had his breakthrough, Evans had been dead for years, so he never had to eat crow about it. And thanks for the etymology!
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05/05/2010 4:34:49 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
To: GeronL
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05/05/2010 4:38:16 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
To: SunkenCiv
I was told that when Blegen went looking for the palace at Pylos, he asked himself, "if I was a Mycenaean prince, where would I put my palace?"...found a likely spot and immediately found the palace when they started digging.
Thalassa is one of many words with -ss- or -s- (including common nouns like glossa and nesos and proper nouns like Knossos, Tylissos, Parnassos, etc.--in Attica they tend to be -tt- as in Hymettos, Lycabettos) that are all thought to come from the pre-Greek population. The placenames are on the mainland, on Crete, and on other islands. Also words in -nth- are thought to come from the same previous language (Corinth, plinth, etc.).
For place names to be taken over from earlier inhabitants is common--many examples in the US of Indian, Spanish, or French place names.
To: Verginius Rufus
-nth suffix means “place of”, for example “Corinth” means “place of the Carians”. :’)
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05/06/2010 3:27:27 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
To: SunkenCiv
I hadn't heard that they had figured out the original meaning of the -nth- element, and never heard of Carians in Corinth. There are a great many placenames in Greece with that element in the name (sometimes disguised as in Tiryns, where the -th- is missing in the nominative case, but found in other forms of the name). There are also a lot of place names in -nd- in Asia Minor which is supposed to be a variant of the same element.
Another example of this element is the word "labyrinth" which is believed to mean "the house of the double axe."
Of course to get the latest theories you need to axe a Bronze Age specialist.
To: Verginius Rufus
;') The -nth place names are found (or rather, were found, during later classical times) in Italy and parts of former Yugoslavia, as well as Greece, Anatolia, and the Aegean. Hmm, wonder where that scan is... [rummages around the hard drives]
-inthos place names (from Settegast):
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05/07/2010 2:53:50 PM PDT
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SunkenCiv
("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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01/08/2016 1:27:48 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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