Posted on 02/02/2010 8:35:43 AM PST by goldstategop
Palin quotes Thomas Sowell in her book.
I'm an easterner not familiar with Texas politics so I can't credibly argue with that statement but I don't see Texas going into bankruptcy like other states and Perry seems to have addressed the Mexican immigration issue fairly well. He is pro-life and hardly a 'RINO'.
Some of you appear to be Palin loons. I don’t think Palin is a loon, but I think some of you have lost your minds. I haven’t made up my mind and all I see are attacks without any real argument on why I should support her..
As I'm sure you meant to note but simply forgot in your haste to submit your post, I am not a 'loon' and I haven't 'attacked' anyone. I've simply noted that some of the venom directed at Sarah Palin seems to come from so-called conservatives - and that it is troubling. One wonders what 'conservative' means to some folks.
I suspect to some, it's a way of finding fault with any politician that dares to run for office as a conservative Republican. To those folks, no human being is ever 'conservative' enough, unless the would-be candidate has absolutely no chance of being elected. Then, they're just fine. Of course, as with all comments here, this is simply my opinion.
A, “Hey, she supported Perry because she thinks . . . .” would do. As it stands, she is supporting 1 of 2 elitists for governor.
I can't speak for Sarah Palin but I have to assume that Rick Perry has shown the kind of leadership that she admires in a fellow politician. Kay Bailey Hutchison trails Perry in the polls and I agree that she is an elitist. I don't know enough about Rick Perry to make that same assessment. Debra Medina seems to lean heavily toward libertarian positions - which can be problematic in some situations - and is coming up in the polls but very likely will lose in the March 2nd primary election.
I believe that Sarah Palin endorsed Rick Perry because she considered him the most conservative Republican in the race with a good record of accomplishment as governor over the past decade. I'm sure she doesn't agree with Perry on every single issue you can think of but on the majority, which is the best you can ever hope for in politics. No politician will ever reflect our individual views 100% on every conceivable issue and a politician that has governed a large state for ten years will inevitably have made decisions you can find fault with. So what?
As long as the candidate has core conservative values and has demonstrated those in his or her decisions affecting public policy, that person is worth endorsing. Playing 'more conservative than thou' and favoring usually unelectable libertarian candidates may feel good but accomplishes little in the world of politics.
Frankly, I'm not at all sure that Sarah Palin really wants to run for president but right now, I would vote for her. If she endorses someone else as the 2012 GOP candidate, I would seriously consider that person. Sarah Palin is the real thing and both she and her message of individuality and smaller government resonates with the American people, tired of allegedly 'brilliant' socialists masquerading as 'progressives' and weak-willed Republican politicians that seem to want to follow the left but do so at a slower pace.
Granted, Palin's endorsement of John McCain is disappointing but I'll cut her some slack - that many simply will not - on the loyalty issue and assume that she won't work too hard for the old fellow.
I'm not 100% behind Sarah Palin for president in 2012 just yet but the jeers and sometimes petty criticisms aimed at her from the right are disturbing in light of her sincere conservative values that generate unrelenting attacks on her from the left on a daily basis and her immense popularity with many Americans, despite the media-fed attacks on her values, politics, family and even her appearance. It's just wrong and a gigantic turn-off to conservatives like me, old enough to recall the similar attacks heaped on Ronald Reagan 30 years ago when he was moving toward the 1980 GOP presidential nomination. No, Palin isn't Reagan but as Mark Twain wrote: "History may not repeat - but it does rhyme". In Sarah Palin's case, I hope it does.
* C.S. Lewis may not be a giant of political conservatism, but he is one of the greatest intellectual giants with regard to Christian apologetics, and she lists him as her favorite author.
* Palin knows her founding fathers and knows her US history.
* Politically speaking, she claims her favorite book is "Team of Rivals" by Doris Kearns Goodwin, one of the most respected works on the Lincoln Administration.
She cited key Austrian free-market economic theorists in her speech ot investors in Hong Kong this past summer. The transcript is online.
Most importantly, she studies, cherishes, and believes the ultimate truth, The Holy Bible. Our founders were Bible-readers as well and you can bet we would live in a very different country and be under a very different Constitution today had they not been. Even the irreligious founders held a basic, Biblical framework for their worldview. You don't understand the Bible, you won't understand human nature, mankind, and the God-centeredness of all reality.
* C.S. Lewis may not be a giant of political conservatism, but he is one of the greatest intellectual giants with regard to Christian apologetics, and she lists him as her favorite author.
* Palin knows her founding fathers and knows her US history.
* Politically speaking, she claims her favorite book is "Team of Rivals" by Doris Kearns Goodwin, one of the most respected works on the Lincoln Administration.
She cited key Austrian free-market economic theorists in her speech ot investors in Hong Kong this past summer. The transcript is online.
Most importantly, she studies, cherishes, and believes the ultimate truth, The Holy Bible. Our founders were Bible-readers as well and you can bet we would live in a very different country and be under a very different Constitution today had they not been. Even the irreligious founders held a basic, Biblical framework for their worldview. You don't understand the Bible, you won't understand human nature, mankind, and the Christ-centeredness of all reality.
Which is why you need to keep your pie hole shut, if one of the best governors of her time, with the highest approval rating of ANY Governor in the land, should decide to run for president.
She was a better governor than George Bush or Bill Clinton, both of whom proceeded to serve 2 terms each as president, and she has a solid record to prove it.
Your opinion is not particularly relevant.
Right now, she is polling better than any potential Republican 2012 candidate(in the latest 2 polls), amongst Republican voters. That is what counts.
” I'm a voter, so my opinion gets to count”
As long as there are more Republican primary voters who support Sarah Palin, than those who don't back her, then your vote has no effect on her.
“She chose Rick Perry to support.”
She can support whoever she likes, just like you can support whoever you like.
” That is one example where I disagree with her priorities.”
Given that you never supported her in the first place, even before she chose to back Perry, that statement of yours is disingenuous at best.
That is not the point.
When a bunch of determined trolls, regularly pass excreta over every single Sarah Palin thread, and stink up the joint up with the same brain dead loony left talking points, including the tired old “but, but she is not qualified for the job”, it is very pertinent to ask such individuals, how many states they have governed, and exactly what makes these trolls “experts” on who is qualified and who isn't.
Given that Sarah Palin was a better governor(going by her sky high approval ratings) than either George Bush or Bill Clinton, and both men proceeded to serve 2 terms as president, I don't know what the heck you people are babbling on about.
“I don’t think she’s ready for the job any more than I think the dozen or so big city mayors are, who govern larger populations than Sarah did in Alaska”
If you think running the biggest state in the country, with vast natural resources, including some of the biggest natural gas and oil deposits in the country, and commanding the Alaskan National Guard, is the same as running some city, you are sadly mistaken.
That's like saying the mayor of New York is more important than the President of Switzerland , just because New York has a bigger population. Going by your theory, the president of Nigeria(population 135 million), is twice as important as the Prime Minister of Britian (population 60 million). In reality of course, the Prime Minister of Great Britain is vastly more important than the President of Nigeria.
What ridiculous analogies you people keep bringing up. When you are trolling Sarah Palin threads, you lose all sense of balance and all common sense goes out the door.
You still don't get it.
If 53% of Americans(the only people that count) were convinced that 0bama is qualified to be president of this country, and 50% of Americans still think 0bama is qualified to be president of this country(going by today's Rasmussen poll), then of course Sarah Palin is over qualified to be president of this country, given that she was one of the best governors in the entire country, if not the best(going by what the governed thought of her, by giving her approval ratings of over 90%. The proof of the pudding is in the eating).
Its not up to you to decide who is, and who is not qualified to be the GOP candidate. It's going to be up to Republican primary voters in most states, the same Republican voters who rate Sarah Palin very high right now, and have her ahead of the other potential 2012 candidates in the latest polls. That's what counts.
Debbie, Sarah doesn’t do cat fights.
/sarc Nigeria's population is 50% bigger than the population of Germany, so therefore the president of Nigeria is 50% more important than the Chancellor of Germany. /sarc off
No, he's not a RINO. More like a Putin of Texas, only wimpier.
Maybe you should check out the debates and decide for yourself who *you* think is more conservative. http://www.texasdebates.org/video_jan14.php
That said, I know Texas is cursed to endure another term of Puti. . . .errr Perry, more from the laziness of voters who would rather watch "reality" tv than the debates. Of course, Texas may vote for a change. Then we'll have to suffer through Brezhne . . . errrr Bill White.
In the end, I think Palin did *not* select the most conservative. The most powerful, yes. If you're interested in power over principles, he's definitely the man to back.
I know you probably don’t have time to listen to the whole debate.
This sums up my opinion of Perry. Once again, I don’t understand how a real conservative can support Perry, the author of one of the biggest land grabs in Texas history, which would have allowed Mexican companies to use our taxpayer funded infrastructure without paying a dime to the Spanish company he sold our roads to. Oh yeah, and the Mexican shippers would be exempt from our safety laws.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzIZmJDhi0A&feature=player_embedded
If she runs for President, should she state that clearly as one of her goals?
And you are fairly typical of an unfortunate branch of the Palinistas. You assume that anyone who utters anything not glowing about Sarah is an anti-Sarah troll. A quick look at my posting history would demonstrate how absurd a claim that is. But you choose to spout before you research. That is, unfortunately, all too common, and, frankly, expected.
I’m completely lukewarm on Sarah. And if you or others have an issue with that, tough noogies. Mr. Robinson can usher me out the door for my views, you, on the other hand, are just another anonymous poster on an internet forum, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
It's a bit rich for anti-Palin trolls, who are invariably the first people to deposit fecal matter on every single Palin thread they can find, to complain about anything.
You can't complain when you get the same crap you are spewing out.
” You assume that anyone who utters anything not glowing about Sarah is an anti-Sarah troll”
No.
People who invariably post the same anti-Palin garbage on any Palin thread they can find on FR, are anti-Plain trolls.
“I’m completely lukewarm on Sarah”
If you don't care aqbout Sarah Palin, why on earth would you be going to the trouble of posting rubbish on Palin threads?
It's like the Mainstream Media who keeep telling us Sarah Palin is irrelevant, yet can't stop themselves from reporting and commening on everything she says.
” And if you or others have an issue with that, tough noogies”
When I think you are posting crap on Palin threads, I will let you know that, like I did in this thread, when I first read your post.
“Mr. Robinson can usher me out the door for my views”
Given that Mr Robinson himself has already come out strongly in support of Sarah Palin, and has had reason to warn off some anti-Palin trolls, you may get your wish sooner or later.
Just Lok at the brutal madness that went on in the Roman Empire pre-Christianity: Rampant infanticide, gladitorial contests, etc...
* There was a time when the church was very powerful--in the time when the early Christians rejoiced at being deemed worthy to suffer for what they believed. In those days the church was not merely a thermometer that recorded the ideas and principles of popular opinion; it was a thermostat that transformed the mores of society. Whenever the early Christians entered a town, the people in power became disturbed and immediately sought to convict the Christians for being "disturbers of the peace" and "outside agitators."' But the Christians pressed on, in the conviction that they were "a colony of heaven," called to obey God rather than man. Small in number, they were big in commitment. They were too God-intoxicated to be "astronomically intimidated." By their effort and example they brought an end to such ancient evils as infanticide and gladiatorial contests. Things are different now. So often the contemporary church is a weak, ineffectual voice with an uncertain sound. So often it is an archdefender of the status quo. Far from being disturbed by the presence of the church, the power structure of the average community is consoled by the church's silent--and often even vocal--sanction of things as they are.
~ Martin Luther King Jr.
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