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Pit Bull Attack Leaves Dog Owners Angry and Grieving
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Posted on 12/17/2009 8:07:08 PM PST by Chet 99

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To: JLLH
don't know where your facts come from but when it comes to killing and serious maiming the top 3 are pit/ pit crosses and rottys...These stats are kept by all states. Any dog can bite not every bite results in emergency surgery to save a life or face. Most dogs will bite and release. Not pits, they were bred to fight bulls and they go for the kill. Idiots that don't know that are the ones defending them......

As a child I was nipped several times by our dog, an Irish setter, it never required stitches or emergency visits to the hospital. States keep these stats to keep track of rabies outbreaks and other diseases that can be passed from animal to human..

What is astonishing is that people like you that defend the breed rarely post articles on all the good deeds the dog of peace does....there have been 2 or 3 in the past year, one posted by Chet....Back up your attitude with posts of all the good pit stories out there..

Oh wait, I forgot, its not the breed, its also now the reporters that don't write about their good deeds...

You are at least good for a laugh...

41 posted on 12/17/2009 9:28:54 PM PST by goat granny
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To: JLLH; tubebender
The defenders of pits are as dense as a box of rocks...the comparison was obvious to anyone with a brain..
42 posted on 12/17/2009 9:31:48 PM PST by goat granny
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To: fish hawk

“I believe that killing all pit bulls and other useless dogs like them and neutering their owners might put a stop to this crap.”

That ‘s wrong in anybody’s book.But....

I do know this that dogs need much attention and they want to be told what to do.Unfortunately for dogs...not every owner has the time nor wants to spend the time... that dogs need.

Pit bulls need constant attention....that’s why I don’t have any dogs....anymore.I don’t want to fool w/them.bird dogs same thing...they get into trouble if you’re not around...they MUST be your constant companion.

Dogs(liking) to kids...if daddy ain’t around...they get into trouble..to a certain age.They gang up on and start following the bad crowd.

Doberman,rottweiler,german shepherd and then some on a smaller scale dependant on their size.Yes...even a chihuahua are bad asses but do little damage.Have you ever heard of one of these attacking a baby? I recall one in a crib biting a baby or two.

I don’t keep dogs anymore...I know my lack of attentiveness...and I don’t like dog sh*t around my house period.


43 posted on 12/17/2009 10:01:42 PM PST by bobaloobob
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Ping

Some slow, big bore, cup points ought to do it for built-up areas. ...swage a few? Boom?


44 posted on 12/17/2009 10:20:48 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: fish hawk
"I believe that killing all pit bulls and other useless dogs like them and neutering their owners might put a stop to this crap."

Hmmm. That's a good idea. And in each state, we do have the right to make laws to rid ourselves of such pestilences. ...like our founding fathers of America, when they carried out hanging sentences against sodomites.


45 posted on 12/17/2009 10:24:35 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: JLLH; tubebender

I think tubebender’s point is exactly the same as mine. I have rotties, and the neighbor’s pits are constantly chewing through my fence to get through. I told the neighbor that they’d be greeted with a .40 JHP when they came through, with no question asked. He wisely put up an additional row of slats on his side of our fence, and his pits are just fine, as is he.

If any dog comes after me or mine, I’ll shoot it in the head, and state law will back me up. Is that plain enough for you to understand?


46 posted on 12/17/2009 11:14:56 PM PST by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: Chet 99

I have two dogs that are akita mixes. While they are very sweet, traditionally they are an aggressive breed, and I can tell you they don’t take kindly to strangers or commotions.

We had some theft problems before I got them. Now we don’t. In fact, nine houses on my block were robbed last year in one night. My dogs went berserk, and our house was skipped.

I pray no cat or small dog is stupid enough to enter my yard when they are outside, and I keep a good watch on them. But they are here for a reason, and I wouldn’t penalize them for attacking any animal or adult that entered my yard without permission.


47 posted on 12/17/2009 11:19:09 PM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: dawn53
I never said or meant that other dogs don't bite. BUT when a pitbull type dog bites, it's strong jaws are more apt to actually tear off chunks of flesh. And that is exactly what they were bred to do. I've been bit by a few different dogs in my life and not once had to go to the hospital for it. Some of these poster don't get that there is a difference between a dog that bites if he is nervous or scared and a dog that was bred to kill, which is quite more than a bite.
48 posted on 12/17/2009 11:34:54 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: familyop

I didn’t know about them hanging sodomites but sounds fine to me. Let’s bring that back. OR maybe throw them into a pen of pitbulls.


49 posted on 12/17/2009 11:38:18 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: familyop
Hey,,,TANKS for the ping,,,

Gotta love them big-bore JHP’s,,,

Only takes one,,,(the other 5 are just for fun),,,

Monday was not a good day here,,,

Stopped at the store,,,

Got back to the car to find a late model truck with a pit

in it parked next to me,,,

Throwing itself against the side-glass doing it's damnedest

to get at me,,,

Got home and was haulin’ the bags inside,,,
(changed over to yard gun)

Went back for another load,,,

Thug woman had let their largest male loose out front to

crap,,,no leash,,,

I skinned that smoke wagon and walked to my car,,,

She had a fit :”HE DON'T BITE”,,,

“I DO!!!”...

(now I need more Ammonia)...

50 posted on 12/18/2009 12:52:49 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

I hope that she moves or gets rid of those animals before too long. We finally got all of the stuff for the new hot rods here and are doing some modifications. ...will Freepmail you.


51 posted on 12/18/2009 1:37:56 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: fish hawk

I agree, and that’s why I said that when a pit bull bites, they aren’t apt to let go. Plus some dogs have a much stronger prey drive, and will “go for the throat”...so to speak. I think that’s why pit bulls are more often involved in deaths than other breeds.

But as far as the biting, I would not trust any dog, not to bite. I’ve known a couple kids who were bitten quite severely by Labs (one child was pushed down by the lab and bitten in the face)...and those breeds are noted as good family pets.

I have Weims, they’ve never bitten anyone, but I would not trust them in a room alone with a child I didn’t know (don’t get me wrong, they are quite often around kids, but I know the children and they don’t abuse the dogs.) On the other hand, I’ve had visitors with small kids (who were eye level with the dog) and the kids had no idea not to smack the dog in the face. I would not put it past my dogs to bite...so I usually have them stay right beside where I’m seated or put them outside when I notice that kind of behavior in a child that’s visiting.


52 posted on 12/18/2009 1:57:06 AM PST by dawn53
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To: fish hawk

I agree, and that’s why I said that when a pit bull bites, they aren’t apt to let go. Plus some dogs have a much stronger prey drive, and will “go for the throat”...so to speak. I think that’s why pit bulls are more often involved in deaths than other breeds.

But as far as the biting, I would not trust any dog, not to bite. I’ve known a couple kids who were bitten quite severely by Labs (one child was pushed down by the lab and bitten in the face)...and those breeds are noted as good family pets.

I have Weims, they’ve never bitten anyone, but I would not trust them in a room alone with a child I didn’t know (don’t get me wrong, they are quite often around kids, but I know the children and they don’t abuse the dogs.) On the other hand, I’ve had visitors with small kids (who were eye level with the dog) and the kids had no idea not to smack the dog in the face. I would not put it past my dogs to bite...so I usually have them stay right beside where I’m seated or put them outside when I notice that kind of behavior in a child that’s visiting.


53 posted on 12/18/2009 1:57:10 AM PST by dawn53
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To: familyop
I hope that she moves or gets rid of those animals before too long.
~~~
Well,,,They seem to be runnin’ out of stock,,,

I can only count three now,,,

2 in back and 1 in the house,,,

As I've posted before we can smell the dead ones in back,,,

Died on their tow chains,,,

The rest(3?)are just skin and bones,,,(worms?),,,

Sooner or later Me-n-Harley will be able to play ball

in our own yard without worry,,,

Still no sign of the thug,,,

I hope they sent his ass to Angola...;0)

54 posted on 12/18/2009 4:13:03 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: tubebender; Chet 99; B4Ranch; glock rocks; Pete-R-Bilt

The last two dogs I had were lab/chow mixes. Very defensive of their yard and kids.

Their job was first line of defense against intruders, be it two legged or four.


55 posted on 12/18/2009 4:54:12 AM PST by SouthTexas (Charge global warmers under RICO.)
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To: Chet 99

Doesn’t matter how they got over the fence. What matters is that they weren’t in their own yard. Weren’t on a leash.


56 posted on 12/18/2009 5:10:54 AM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Gator113
Recommend the 12 gauge. Those dogs don’t die easy.

I'll keep that in mind!

Plus, birdshot doesn't travel as far as a bullet does. Have to think of the neighbours, after all.

57 posted on 12/18/2009 5:41:17 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives unite behind conservative Republicans in the primaries!)
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To: shibumi

I *heart* The Highlander.
It’s interesting how all these blustering badasses who like to yak about how they’re gonna shoot every pit bull that steps into their yard seem to be ignoring the fact that the labs were the ones who got loose.

I would never personally keep a vicious dog, but neither would I punish one for defending my home.


58 posted on 12/18/2009 6:58:29 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (Raise the fanged and warlike mistress, stern, impassive, weaponed mistress...)
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To: dawn53; Chet 99; fish hawk; tubebender

Dogs can squeeze through very tiny holes. I witnessed a dog doing this. She squeezed through an opening barely the circumference of her head, and when she got to her chest, she shimmied out. Dogs are very capable of getting themselves in trouble. And just because one dog was scared doesn’t mean he was too scared to follow another dog. You can’t assume there was foul play just because a grieving owner makes comments regarding a neighbor they probably don’t get along with.

Fish hawk, over fifty different breeds of dog have taken lives, including labs, chespeake bay retrievers, westies, collies, and hounds. Dogs play by different rules, and thus need humans to make sure they don’t do anything we consider bad.

They’re also no different physically. Their jaws are no different, not stronger, and they don’t lock. They also are not more likely to tear flesh than other breeds. This is a myth. There have been lots of “vicious pit bull” stories where the dog simply nipped someone, but it’s never perceived that way by the public because the media knows how to market their stories to get better ratings. They are a business, after all, not a public service, and they have no obligation to report all dog attacks.

Pit bulls were never bred to attack people. They were bred, like many, many other breeds, to fight other animals, and during the generations of breeding for the perfect fighting dog, the breeders also bred for dogs who were extremely human-submissive. They did not want to have a dog in the ring they could not control.

This is why out of five to ten million pit bulls, an infinitesimally small number of them have taken lives. Compared to their population, less than a half of a half of a percent of them have done harm to people. It is ridiculous that people believe this tiny minority is representative of the entire breed. There are no studies that prove this, and plenty that disprove it, so perhaps a better focus would be on all dog owners. You are no less dead if killed by a lab, and the same rules should apply for all dogs.


59 posted on 12/18/2009 1:17:16 PM PST by solosmoke
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To: solosmoke; glock rocks; SouthTexas; fish hawk

A pair of Pit bulls attacked my wife and her dog >B?ON A FRIGGING PUBLIC STREET</A> and those are the only P/B out of millions that I give a shit about!!!! The “owner” of these two served time because EPD had cited him several times but he never showed up for the hearings...


60 posted on 12/18/2009 1:38:18 PM PST by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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