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New York autopsies show 2009 H1N1 influenza virus damages entire airway (like 1918, 1957)
NIH/National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases ^ | Dec 7, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 12/07/2009 1:01:54 PM PST by decimon

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To: neverdem

Staph, Strep and even Gram negative organisms aren’t opportunistic. They are considered secondary bacterial infections. Lungs are infected with virus and natural defense mechanisms such as the mucociliary apparatus is overwhelmed allowing bacterial invasion.

I agree with you that “opportunistic” implies a loss of humoral or cell mediated immunity in the body due to bone marrow suppression, HIV or severe immune deficiency. Those organisms are typically fungi, protozoa or other viruses like CMV.


41 posted on 12/08/2009 4:33:35 AM PST by CholeraJoe (I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter.)
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To: neverdem

Hmmm...the article says the bacterial infections were secondary and I said opportunistic. Any chance that some coccus was there first to make the viral infection worse?


42 posted on 12/08/2009 4:34:53 AM PST by decimon
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Staph, Strep and even Gram negative organisms aren’t opportunistic.

'Opportunistic' was my term, my error.

43 posted on 12/08/2009 4:38:06 AM PST by decimon
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To: CaliforniaCon

Nah it sure isn’t the flu. But the stuff going around norCal seems to hang on and drag on. Not enough to keep you in bed feeling like death warmed over and yet not minor enough to ignore completely. My mom always said that winter was a good time for chicken soup and ginger ale. I believe those to be the panacea for all known winter illnesses. ( well most all anyway)


44 posted on 12/08/2009 9:29:09 AM PST by the long march
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To: DvdMom

I had and still have (some of) the following: fever of 100.5 for only two days early on, horrible sore throat, bad cough (more in throat than chest), bacterial conjunctivitis in both eyes, cold/sinus symptoms coming after the bronchitis was diagnosed. This was odd because the order of symptoms was reversed from what I am used to.

Doc is certain this was not H1N1 and I would agree — I never had the bad chills or any high fever or other hallmarks of a flu. I never had a problem getting out of bed, did not have the awful fatigue flu causes. I’ve had flus, and this was some weird combo of other things, not flu.

Doc said they are seeing many flu cases in their office but that’s not my problem. He told me to come back when I am over this and get a swine flu shot as they have the vaccine. Maybe I will and maybe I won’t — I’m above the age where flu is common and hear it is on the wane now anyway.


45 posted on 12/08/2009 10:53:38 AM PST by CaliforniaCon
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Re: “Nah it sure isn’t the flu. But the stuff going around norCal seems to hang on and drag on. Not enough to keep you in bed feeling like death warmed over and yet not minor enough to ignore completely. My mom always said that winter was a good time for chicken soup and ginger ale. I believe those to be the panacea for all known winter illnesses. ( well most all anyway)”

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Agree — I feel the way you describe — felt awful and could not sleep at night due to cough and horrible throat pain but was much better during the day — enough to sit at PC almost nonstop ;) With flu, most people can barely get out of bed.

I agree with your mom, too, re ginger ale and soup for these problems. Had some chicken soup yesterday and it really cleared out the sinuses (from the steam). Breathing steam is right up there with ginger ale and soup.


46 posted on 12/08/2009 10:58:02 AM PST by CaliforniaCon
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My friend’s child and my friend both tested postive for H1N1 .

My friend is a nurse and she had a bad sore throat , a deep deep cough , and chest congestion she had no fever , no aches , nor was extra tired etc...

Her daughter had a fever , sore throat , itchy red eyes , and a bad dry cough . Her daughter got bronchitis but still tested postive for H1N1.

They both had different symptoms but both did test postive for H1N1 .


47 posted on 12/08/2009 11:51:34 AM PST by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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