Posted on 12/06/2009 8:05:02 AM PST by Star Traveler
Thank goodness they only have about 5% of the market. .......
The Jesse Jobs gang has 10% of the computer market but it looks like they are stalling out due to Windows 7
In my area, the wireless carriers won’t sell to people who don’t live in their coverage area. I guess they don’t want to pay roaming charges for calls made from the home area.
When I first got the iPhone I was wondering about that with AT&T. I checked and asked about that, because I was going to be out of my home area for much longer periods of time than I was in it, thereby being a majority of the time away.
They told me that it didn't make any difference to them because the basic plan included national roaming and so they didn't care. Of course, that was from a couple of different customer support people and may not have represented the company's policy, but that's what they told me, so that's what I'm going by.
I still think Apple is making a mistake by not being available on the national network with the best coverage.
Well, I find it hard to disagree with Apple's choice (if it did have a choice, as I'm not sure). I understand that Verizon did not want to accomodate Apple in making the changes to their network that Apple required for this iPhone. But, AT&T did agree to make the necessary changes to their network.
So, maybe this has more to do with Verizon not realizing what it could have had, at the time it had a choice in the matter... LOL...
But, really, to say that Apple did not choose the right network when that network (the GSM network) handles 80% of all the world's mobile traffic -- that's really going the "wrong way"... :-)
I think, if you're a company bringing out a phone for a new service (like the iPhone) and you choose to reach 80% of the world's mobile network (through GSM) -- then you've made the right decision...
The iPhone is near its ceiling. It is too closed and Apple’s control-freakish behavior on the app side will prevent much more market penetration. The other thing is that there are strong competitors like Google, RIM and Nokia, something Microsoft never had. I don’t include Palm at this time, although they could regain some market share with the Pre.
Full disclosure: I have a Palm Centro, and despise BlackBerrys.
Verizon uses CDMA, and could not rebuild their network in a few months. Everyone will be moving to LTE in the next few years, but the timing was wrong for Verizon on the iPhone.
AT&T is probably the best of the GSM providers in the US.
The Jesse Jobs gang has 10% of the computer market but it looks like they are stalling out due to Windows 7
LOL... pretty good dennisw ... :-) You've been trying your wishful thinking on the matter for a long time. The wishes just haven't come true for you, unfortunately...
Here's the true story of what's going on with Windows 7...
The iPhone is near its ceiling. It is too closed and Apple’s control-freakish behavior on the app side will prevent much more market penetration.
Well..., I've heard the predictions from even before it was even sold. It was going nowhere, it would only have a few users, it would flop, and so on and so forth.
But, what has happened is that it was a stupendous success and blew everyone away with how successful it was -- and -- continues to be....
So..., sorry, this sounds sorta like those same kinds of predictions I've heard all along... LOL...
Verizon uses CDMA, and could not rebuild their network in a few months.
Well, with 80% of the world's mobile use being on GSM, it seems that Verizon is on the wrong side... :-)
CDMA was especially well-suited for the United States’ topography and population distribution. Its limitations have now become too much of a problem, though.
It *is* a success. I’m just saying that it is unlikely, for several reasons, that it will achieve Microsoft-type market domination.
It *is* a success. I’m just saying that it is unlikely, for several reasons, that it will achieve Microsoft-type market domination.
Well, maybe not like a "Microsoft-type market domination" -- but more like an iPod market domination (with iPods being 70-75% of the market, with all the other manufacturers of MP3 players, combined, being 25-30% of the market).
Or more like the iTunes Music Store, being the number one music retailer in the country, surpassing Walmart for that distinction, with all the others in the market running behind Apple...
Yeah, maybe that kind of success... :-)
Well, personally, I’m rooting for Maemo. Can’t use it yet, though, because I’m stuck on Verizon (can’t really get a signal from other providers at home).
CDMA was especially well-suited for the United States’ topography and population distribution. Its limitations have now become too much of a problem, though.
IS-95
Interim Standard 95 (IS-95) is the first CDMA-based digital cellular standard pioneered by Qualcomm. The brand name for IS-95 is cdmaOne. IS-95 is also known as TIA-EIA-95.
CDMA2000
CDMA2000 (also known as IMT Multi‑Carrier (IMT‑MC)) is a family of 3G[1] mobile technology standards, based on CDMA, to send voice, data, and signaling data between mobile phones and cell sites. The set of standards includes: CDMA2000 1X, CDMA2000 EV-DO Rev. 0, CDMA2000 EV-DO Rev. A, and CDMA2000 EV-DO Rev. B[2].
GSM
GSM (Global System for Mobile communications: originally from Groupe Spécial Mobile) is the most popular standard for mobile phones in the world. Its promoter, the GSM Association, estimates that 80% of the global mobile market uses the standard. GSM is used by over 3 billion people across more than 212 countries and territories. Its ubiquity makes international roaming very common between mobile phone operators, enabling subscribers to use their phones in many parts of the world. GSM differs from its predecessors in that both signaling and speech channels are digital, and thus is considered a second generation (2G) mobile phone system. This has also meant that data communication was easy to build into the system. GSM EDGE is a 3G version of the protocol.
Well, personally, I’m rooting for Maemo.
Just so people know... :-)
Maemo
Maemo is a software platform developed by Nokia for smartphones and Internet Tablets. It is based on the Debian operating system.
Interesting.
Which, coincidentally, is what I use on all my computers. :-)
Since when do chimps with a blog become the source for conventional wisdom?
And I have to agree... although I'm sure Steve Ballmer, CEO of Microsoft, wouldn't like being called a chimp... LOL...
But, that's fine by me, I think he's a chimp anyway... :-) especially when you see this...
Steve Ballmer talking and acting like a chimp...
Oh, and by the way, those same chimps are still at it today in regards to iPhone and it's upward market penetration..
Verizon uses CDMA, and could not rebuild their network in a few months. Everyone will be moving to LTE in the next few years, but the timing was wrong for Verizon on the iPhone.
Here's an article about Verizon "kicking itself" for not going with the iPhone... :-) and the next cel company network to go with iPhone being T-Mobile
Posted Dec 2nd 2009 2:40PM by Brian White
Apple's (AAPL) iPhone has been the biggest feather in the cap of U.S. partner AT&T (T), which has recruited millions of new wireless customers every quarter just based on the iPhone handset alone. Without it, AT&T could have slipped far behind larger rival Verizon Wireless in the last few years. In part due to the iPhone's incredible success, Verizon Wireless had to buy rival Alltel earlier this year just to keep up (and surpass) AT&T's wireless subscriber numbers. But what would happen if the iPhone went to another wireless carrier?
The rumor for over a year is that Verizon, kicking itself over not partnering with Apple for iPhone exclusivity back at the start of 2007, really wanted a version of the iPhone to sell itself once AT&T's exclusivity contract ended with Apple. But then again, the iPhone was built for the technical platform AT&T's wireless network in the U.S. uses, not Verizon's (which is completely different). Apple would have to swap in quite a few things just to make a Verizon Wireless version of the iPhone work. So, what other carrier would be able to pick up the iPhone in the U.S. as it is built right now and make it usable instantly?
Try T-Mobile USA, the U.S. arm of German telecom giant Deutsche Telekom. T-Mobile USA uses the same technical network as AT&T, so it makes a natural fit for the carrier to carry the iPhone if at all possible. There is no doubt Apple would love to have a second iPhone partner in the U.S. so that it could sell even more handsets.
Doug Reid with Thomas Weisel thinks this is a definite possibility as well some time next year. On top of that, Apple already sells the iPhone with T-Mobile in Germany -- so why not the U.S.? Apple's device, which is in a league of its own, is doing incredible well even on an AT&T network that was ranked last in 19 of 26 cities where Consumer Reports recently ranked wireless carrier performance. Another partner and the iPhone would be unstoppable -- and it seems like it already is in many ways.
Maemo does look promising if app developers bite on it. Right now it has some serious limitations, doesn’t work in portrait mode being the major one. Also, the hardware definitely seems like an afterthought only done to get the OS out the door.
A virtual keyboard only Maemo device that has portrait mode (and ideally a slightly bigger battery) would be pretty solid. I have heard rumors that they are working on a N920 to be virtual keyboard only. Hopefully the software tweaks are in the pipeline too.
No, quite the contrary. I have a complaint with Apple suing other companies who build Apple compatible hardware and install legally obtained Mac OS.
No, quite the contrary. I have a complaint with Apple suing other companies who build Apple compatible hardware and install legally obtained Mac OS.
Well, for a hardware company that makes its software (that Mac OS X you're talking about) to supplement and support its hardware -- it makes absolutely no business sense to give their software away to another hardware business... LOL...
And that's exactly why Apple has the terms of use, for their software that they've developed, for their own hardware.
NOW..., that other hardware company is totally free to make their own operating system (like Apple has for their own hardware) to supplement their cheaper brand that they have. There's no problem in them doing that.
However, that other rip-off company doesn't want to spend the money doing that and they prefer violating the license on the software and trying to steal Apple's work, instead... :-)
Well..., that's usually how crooks think and rip-off companies work. That's why the judge ruled against that company for stealing Apple's work...
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