Posted on 12/05/2009 12:37:51 PM PST by Chet 99
A bit of balance is necessary in the coverage. I think there is FAR TOO MUCH hot-headed emotional bias going on against this type of dog in particular. You don’t want to own one - fine. No one is forcing you. As for the “nanny” comment, you are arguing a historical fact. I have said REPEATEDLY on this and other threads that responsible ownership is what is needed rather than an emotional backlash against a specific breed or type of dog. I would not personally leave a child unsupervised with ANY domesticated animal (cat or dog). Children have a way of making sudden movements which can startle the animal which will then act defensively with teeth or claws. This is simple common sense and is even more important when dealing with a powerful dog. HISTORICALLY, however, people HAVE used Pits and other types as nanny dogs. You may disagree with their having done so, but it doesn’t make it less so - and most have done so without incident. If you choose to go ahead and argue a historical fact, be my guest. Good luck with that.
The “Pit bulls are naturally vicious” mantra does not make it so - despite the endless repetitions by many here and the total denial of studies suggesting the contrary.
It is the breed.
Not many breeds would be capable of such an attack. Not many breeds have the temperament of a fighter and killer.
Dogs personalities reflect the purpose for which they were bred. Pitbulls were bred to fight and to kill.
There are few breeds with the fearsome combo of being capable of a deadly attack and prone to the temperament to carry out such an attack, and being so well loved by low brow low class morons.
http://www.nj.com/bayonne/index.ssf/2009/12/animal_shelter_manager_70-year.html
Who told you that and why did you believe them?
If you are too old to run and too weak to fight you should be armed 24/7. In the shower, at the dinner table, definitely when out in public.
That's why Granny always wore a frilly apron. The front pocket was large and generous enough for a snubbie, which was ready at hand whenever she needed it.
Best regards,
lololol I wish I had a granny like that
Best regards,
I truly hope your intention is not to insult those who love the breed. If so, shame on you. You should know better. I am neither a low brow, nor am I low class or stupid. You, however, are showing neither good sense nor class when you insult others because they do not share your hatred of an entire type of dog. That is the type of ad hominem attack worthy of liberals. You really should know better. Your comment about the type of owner this particular dog had proves the point. It’s the OWNER.
It’s not the breed. We’re done. Please don’t respond unless you can do so respectfully and without hurling derogatory comments.
Someone is abusing the banglist keyword. Please remove this from the list. Thank you.
It is most certainly typical of a breed bred to fight and kill, that they have the ability and PROPENSITY to .... gee, I don't know..... FIGHT AND KILL.
Labradors like to fetch. Boxers like to tackle. Australian Shepherds like to herd. PitBuls like to fight and kill. It really isn't any more difficult than that. A dog bred to a purpose generally enjoys that purpose, is built for that purpose, and has great ability in accomplishing that purpose.
The purpose a PitBull was bred for was to fight and kill.
Thus when those two dogs were loose for a minute, the very first thing they did was run out looking for something to fight and kill. They ran into a 70 year old woman; who according to the low brow, low class, morons who owned the dogs.... provoked them.
Please stop the personal attacks
Please stop the personal attacks.
Perhaps you are an atypical person in love with Pitbulls.
I have known a few atypical Pitbull owners, and they responsible acknowledged what moron Pitbull owners go to (other peoples) death to deny.... that Pitbulls ARE more likely to attack than most other breeds, and that the SEVERITY of the attack makes it a much more serious concern.
It is the “My fuzzy wumpkins would never hurt ANYBODY, unless they were provoked.” Pitbull owners who do little to prevent an attack, and then when it occurs; insist that the attack was somehow “provoked”; like that 70 year old woman “provoked” those two loose Pittbulls.
Actually, this is typical of virtually everyone who has a child or dog who damages/harms/does other bad things. Most of the pit bull type dogs (there are several breeds which fall under this category and MANY mixed or randomly bred dogs who would be called pit bulls) I have encountered were friendly and easy going. I will agree that this type of dog can do massive damage if it wants to, but so can other large, strong breeds. The biggest problem is that a certain segment of society has decided that a big mean looking pitbull is a badge of honor, and they not only try to find the dog with the ugliest temperament they can, but they encourage bad behavior. How many pit bulls have you actually been around? How many have tried to bite you?
They are more likely to bite, more likely to inflict severe injury if they bite, less likely to stop biting before the kill; and MORE likely to be owned by a “certain segment of society”.
And I have known dozens of Pitbulls, dated a woman whose brother had one (truly a sweet and lovely dog). Five Pittbulls attacked me that I can recall off the top of my head. Two wound up dead. The other three wouldn't get close enough, I wasn't armed with a ranged weapon, or the owner was there saying “They won't bite!” (the wife)and “why are you attacking my dog? How would you like it if I attacked you?” (the husband); my brother and I were walking on the other side of the street when their dogs crossed the street to attack us.
“a certain segment of society” indeed.
I contest your broad sweeping generalizations that
"This is typical of Pitbull owners" and
"This is the type of scumbag lowlife in love with Pitbulls"
Arguing that a particular person is irresponsible or a 'lowlife scumbag' may be appropriate
but generalizing such behavior, without proof, as 'typical' is unwarranted
and offensive to the vast majority of owners who are responsible
and whose dogs spend their whole lives never having been in trouble.
Not all Pitbull owners are low life scumbags, but almost all low life scumbags who own a dog, own a Pitbull.
You need to hang with a better crowd. I have been around many pit bull type dogs, at the dog park, in my obedience classes, at dog show, owned by friends, etc. I have never had ONE even lift a lip at me.
As I recall we have had this discussion before.
Best regards,
I wasn’t ‘hanging’ with them.
I dated a woman whose brother owned a Staffordshire Terrier (a Pitbull with papers); he too never growled at anybody and was a big sweet heart. But his owner, unlike many Pitbull owners, acknowledged that he had a great potential for violence, even without the demonstrated propensity; and took steps to prevent any attacks.
Much like the parent whose kid can do no wrong is most likely to raise a brat. It is the Pitbull owner who thinks “My sweetiekins would never hurt ANYBODY” who is the most likely to have a dog that attacks someone; and their response is “NEVER! It must have been provoked!”. That is because they are morons.
Any dog owner who thinks there dog can never do things that dogs do shouldn’t have a dog of any sort.
The pitbull was bred to fight, in bull and bear baiting pits first, but dogfighting eventually.
ANY dog that showed human aggression during this time was immediately destroyed, since the handlers had to break the dogs apart before the valuable animals permanently damaged each other.
It is only in recent times that the dogs have been encouraged by ignorant folk and unscrupulous breeders to show any type of human aggression. Look into the history, rather than accept everything the left wing media tells you to panic about, shouting from the rooftops like a trained seal:
"PITBULL BAD PITBULL BAD!"
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