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NY Times blog ^ | November 10, 2009, 7:59 am | Patricia Cohen

Posted on 11/10/2009 12:39:24 PM PST by a fool in paradise

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<< We did once drive over to George Carlin’s house in Venice to see if he was home. He wasn’t, but his wife invited us in to hang out for awhile. >>

Oh man, too bad George wasn’t there. I bet he’d have let you guys in as well. He’d have been a blast to hang with.

Story for ya. Me and a buddy and a couple young chicks were parked on a street in Brentwood (near their house) on a summer night in ‘83 (when I was 19) listening to The Doors when my huge old Sedan DeVille’s battery died. Saw a guy in a pickup truck pull into a driveway across the street, so I flagged him down and asked for a jump. Said he didn’t have cables but that I could come in and call AAA, which I did. He kinda looked familiar. In his kitchen we saw some gold records on the wall and went in for a closer look. John Densmore, drummer for the Doors. Crazy coincidence.

AAA said they wouldn’t be there for almost an hour, which was more than fine by us. To make a long story short(er), we hung out with him for at least the next couple hours (leaving the jumped Caddy charging in his driveway) playing pool, smoking ganja out of an artsy pipe that he said was once Jim Morrison’s, and listening to unreleased recordings on his reel-to-reel he made with Bob Marley that he was real proud of. Amazing night. Real nice guy and a great host.

The girls were sitting together all shy and quiet on his couch the whole time. We forgot they were even there.


21 posted on 06/04/2021 7:24:24 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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That’s a great memory. Hanging out with Densmore, playing pool. I thought maybe you were gonna say Jay Leno, I’ve heard many stories of him helping people out when their car is broken down.

The wall of gold records... just inside the front door of Carlin’s house was a long hallway lined with his gold records. At least I guess they were gold, they were awards anyway.


22 posted on 06/04/2021 4:27:26 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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That story has been convoluted like all sexual gang bangs and orgies of lore by hashtag zealots into pretty much sweaty Viking rape fests ....especially if it involved the Hells Angels

It's hard to tell and both Wolfe and Thompson give varying accounts of the Hells Angels all together now sex romps

There is a fair amount of back story about how it was a Cassady girlfriend maybe jealous he was cavorting with Mountain Girl..who was later paramour to Kesey and Garcia..

One for sure erroneous modern version has it as Cassady ex wife Carolyn which is very unlikely...while she did I think admit to having an affair with Kerouac mostly out of pity I think she'd hardly have been that type ...and woulda been 40 something by then....she strikes me as a mom...a wild mom but still a mom

According I think to Wolfe the damsel in questioninvited 4 angels to the shed to choo choo and the rest of course showed up uninvited and then Cassady was invited in to make it official ....as Wolfe said....it was her “movie”

Feminists hate that description that a woman could I guess invite a gang bang....well....it happens

Anyhow...it's supposedly one of these two girls..her name was Ann Murphy and could be same girl...not sure...Murphy admits it was her at La Honda and that she was with Cassady for great physical coitus.....his acclaimed stamina as a hammer.....so her appetite is admitted.....the big irony to me is I'm convinced Kerouac was queer and Cassady....hard to tell...everyone was sexually drawn to him ..and his sinewy hard physique and crazy mature.....but to me any man experiments with other men is a homosexual even if in denial....strange people...given way too much literary and cultural credence....a lurid tail covered by many......last pic is a mountain girl who was on the bus too I think ....Further

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mountain girl young.....

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23 posted on 06/05/2021 1:57:39 AM PDT by wardaddy (Feel my warmth)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Either Tuscaloosa or jackson Miss

Jackson was around Christmas 1978

Man they love playing there...so excited to know they had fans there

Weir and Phil kept on about it

Very small crowd by their standards...

Maybe 3500

But they were extremely warm to the crowd of southerners

I’m sure they knew they were right next to Blues and Jimmy Rodgers ....

And this must be a Siberian outpost far as long hairs went..lol..they obviously appreciated all that ...


24 posted on 06/05/2021 2:03:36 AM PDT by wardaddy (Feel my warmth)
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Mountain Girl is the name I was trying to think of... but she would have been young and I doubt into the lurid stuff. La Honda Ann Murphy is suspect #1.

There was a girl in my high school class who entertained the football team in the same fashion. I sometimes wondered whether I belonged to the same species as my classmates.

I think you’re right about the ambiguous nature of Kerouac and Cassady. Allen Ginsberg and William S Burroughs were part of the Kerouac circle and they definitely were on Team Rainbow.

Kerouac was an odd duck. Blue collar Canadian Catholic at least in upbringing, he was a fan of Richard Nixon and of marijuana. But he wasn’t even a ‘60s liberal in a lot of ways much less a radical. I can’t recall where I read the bio of him, might have been in E. Michael Jones’ arch Catholic magazine.


25 posted on 06/05/2021 3:08:16 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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Ginsburg full blown homo freak no doubt Burroughs shot his wife William Tell style Yes the Kesey bus had about half dozen young nubiles And the one who freaked out in Houston and lonesome dove McMurtry went and got her from cops and sent her home was only 17 I think I think they picked up a runaway even younger.... Fried and scared....poor thing Kesey and Babbs were horny ....Babbs was a Vietnam vet.....combat chopper pilot. Prankster girls.....I’ve always found this little window into all the craziness interesting....that Bus linked mostly homosexual and Jewish beats to hedonistic free love hippies....and it’s Doppler into today....the Beats grew from something as well..haven’t researched that...a post war vacuum for closet gay mostly Jewish poets in Manhattan pretty much ...anyhow the prankster girls were cute and got scant attention......one prankster I actually admire and is sort of conservative as an old man....he was always a thinker ....Stewart Brand

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26 posted on 06/06/2021 12:38:35 AM PDT by wardaddy (Feel my warmth)
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