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Battle of Lepanto: Armada of the Cross
tna ^ | 10.07.09 | William Norman Grigg

Posted on 11/01/2009 7:11:58 PM PST by Coleus

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1 posted on 11/01/2009 7:12:01 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

We can do it again.


2 posted on 11/01/2009 7:16:33 PM PST by Infidel Heather (In God I trust, not the Government.)
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To: Coleus

One of my favorite victories of the West over Terrorism.


3 posted on 11/01/2009 7:23:14 PM PST by redstateconfidential (`)
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To: Coleus

One of the great battles of all time. We need to fight it again in November 3, 2009, 2010, & 2012 and rid our nation of traitors.


4 posted on 11/01/2009 7:23:20 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Coleus
Religious liberty was extinguished in territories that fell under the Islamic Crescent; Christians and Jews could retain a modicum of freedom by paying the "dhimmi," an extortionate tribute exacted by Islamic authorities. The conquered Christians were also required to pay the "blood tax": Their oldest sons would be taken to Turkey to be trained as yeni ceri, or janissaries — "new soldiers" in the Sultan’s service. Attractive adolescents — females and those males not taken as soldiers — were often enslaved as prostitutes in Istanbul’s pleasure palaces. Some of the sultans "made use of the handsome boys brought every year to Constantinople as a trouble-free parallel harem," notes Beeching.

Islam has not changed in 1300 years.

5 posted on 11/01/2009 7:25:27 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana

To me, there will never be such a place called “Instanbul”; it will always be Constantinople. (As it will be to the rest of the world again.)


6 posted on 11/01/2009 7:27:14 PM PST by Infidel Heather (In God I trust, not the Government.)
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To: Coleus
As the two flagships collided, the charge was led — however improbably — by a woman, Maria "La Bailadora" (The Dancer), disguised as a man and "burning to avenge the contempt for womanhood" displayed by the Turks, observes Carroll. Another unlikely combatant, 75-year-old Sebastian Veniero, strode the decks clad in slippers, calmly dispatching Turks with his antique crossbow.

How NOW and AARP should be acting...

7 posted on 11/01/2009 7:32:14 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Coleus

Read “EMPIRES OF THE SEA” by Roger Crowley. Goes into detail concerning Muslim-Christian wars of the 16th cent
including siege of Malta, Cyprus and Lepanto.


8 posted on 11/01/2009 7:32:27 PM PST by njslim
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


9 posted on 11/01/2009 7:34:39 PM PST by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: narses; NYer

a historical perspective


10 posted on 11/01/2009 7:35:24 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: Coleus

As important today as then.


11 posted on 11/01/2009 7:54:43 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Infidel Heather

Constantinople is dead. If turkey is to fall, it’s capital, istanbul, will be the last stronghold...just as constantinople was for the byzantines.

It will be a thousand years before istanbul is not turkish. And then it will be something else, but never again will it be constantinople.


12 posted on 11/01/2009 8:00:03 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: 2banana

All Christians should know this histoiry and the Battle of Vienna especially Catholics. I think Pope Bendict knows we are going to be tested again soon.

The Muslims/Turks would enter villages in Italy and Greece and murder the population and take slaves. Most of the Muslim ships had Christian slave oarsmen who rebelled. The Chsritian fleet had freemen.

Also if you own a Beretta gun - your weapon was part of the battle. Beretta was founded around this time an dtheir first order was for rifle barrels in Venice. Venice provided the most ships and the rifles (arequebus) used were deadly.


13 posted on 11/01/2009 8:04:39 PM PST by Frantzie (Judge David Carter - democrat & dishonorable Marine like John Murtha.)
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To: Coleus

Where are the men of this caliber in Europe today - willing to defend the West? The psychopathic globalists in charge of the European Union (and USA) want to undo all these sacrifices and admit Turkey into the EU. If that happens we can say goodbye to Europe and what is left of Christendom in Europe.


14 posted on 11/01/2009 8:06:51 PM PST by Fingolfin
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To: Coleus

Excellent summary...thanks for posting...read an excellent fictionalized version of the siege of Malta that is well-researched and highly recommended: The Religion by Tim Willocks...Neither Islam nor Catholicism comes off well in this period due to the fanaticism and cruelty of the Moors and the corruption within the church, primarily in the highest offices...all historically documented.


15 posted on 11/01/2009 8:19:42 PM PST by dunblak
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To: Coleus

My only beef with this article is that I think it understates the importance of the galleass in the battle. The presence of the galleass, a superior technology that the turks lacked, is what won the battle.

Galleasses had 3-4 times the number of sails as a galley, and 6 or 7 times the number of guns as a galley. They were sturdier and taller and impossible to board from a galley. Galleys required more of their manpower to be devoted to rowing with oars. Galleasses freed up some of their manpower to be used as fighters...manning cannon or smaller arms. Their weakness was speed and maneuverability.

One galleass was worth 10 galleys, easily. Probably twice that many.


16 posted on 11/01/2009 8:22:21 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Coleus

“Throughout the Turkish fleet, the soldiers of The Prophet, confident of victory, disported themselves by belly-dancing to the music of the tambor and the flute.”

There’s an image I can do without.


17 posted on 11/01/2009 8:22:28 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Coleus

Isn’t there a wonderful poem about Don Juan and the battle of Lepanto?


18 posted on 11/01/2009 8:24:56 PM PST by mckenzie7 (I am a European American! Silly me. I never realized that before! Thanks, oh great unifier!)
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http://www.poetry-online.org/chesterton_lepanto.htm

G.K.Chesterton


19 posted on 11/02/2009 12:11:41 AM PST by clockwise
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To: Coleus

Wasn’t Cervantes, the author of Don Quixote de la Mancha, wounded in this battle?


20 posted on 11/02/2009 1:21:34 AM PST by Levante
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