Posted on 10/31/2009 6:48:08 PM PDT by Coleus
My point about Newton was that he clearly “believed” in ID. See my post #7 in this thread. Evolution was not a major issue at the time.
Very often the case.
I don’t know whether there was a big bang noise when God created the heavens and the earth (When God makes the world and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound?).
The universe probably exists within a vacuum and therefore, no audible sound would have been produced by a big bang owing to the vacuum.
I reckon creation would be some noisy business,
Scientists today point to electromagnetic "echos" of the big bang which indicate it was exceedingly noisy... just not in the audible spectrum.
but what it IS laid out in scripture is the number of days it took to create everything and the order in which it was all created. I’m one of those crazy guys who assume that the Word of God is literal in light of the fact I have no way to verify it one way or the other.
When one uses a literal interpretation, what standard is used to determine if a particular verse or passage should be interpreted literally or figuratively? If one reads and interprets the six day creation account literally, how does one not do the same literal interpretation for the following verses?
Job 38:4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.I have no idea how primitive the minds of our ancestors were, but I don’t have Cro-Magnon in mind when I see them.Job 38:5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
Job 38:6 On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone?
Psalm 104:5 He established the earth upon its foundations, So that it will not totter forever and ever.
Proverbs 8:29 When He set for the sea its boundary So that the water would not transgress His command, When He marked out the foundations of the earth;
Proverbs 30:4 Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His son's name? Surely you know!
Primitive in no way exclusively means some proto-human species. If in our modern age we describe stone age cultures living in the jungles of New Guinea to be primitive, why can't we describe a semi-nomadic people using stone implements to be primitive?
Exd 4:25 But Zipporah took a flint knife, cut off her son's foreskin and touched {Moses'} feet with it. [fn] "Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me," she said.The folks that are described in the scriptures seemed to be as capable of understanding complex ideas as we are today.
With that in mind, how then do you explain Job 38? I read it as God speaking to a man in a manner capable of being understood by peoples having a very primitive understanding of the earth and universe.
I find it odd that scientists have free reign to discover anything, anything at all. Medicine, history, space, etc... everything but the origin of man. Hands off, that is a god’s territory.
“I find it odd that scientists have free reign to discover anything, anything at all. Medicine, history, space, etc... everything but the origin of man. Hands off, that is a god’s territory.”
They are free to discover anything they like. Just don’t claim a discovery that’s not there.
Evolution By Natural Selection is a valid discovery.
“Evolution By Natural Selection is a valid discovery.”
But it has not discovered the origin of life, which I thought was what you mentioned. Further, while mutation and natural selection has been demonstrated on some level (microbe immunity) I don’t think it has demonstrated the ability to turn a fin into a leg.
bttt
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