Posted on 10/08/2009 11:35:33 AM PDT by Nikas777
“Those making claims it is authentic also have incomplete data as well if you want to be accurate.”
You try to draw a moral equivalence where none exists.
One group says that they *believe* it is, or might be, authentic, based on some very good evidence, while the other group stridently insists that it *cannot* be authentic, that science has demonstrated its inauthenticity.
The first group is relying on good evidence which they admit to be less than conclusive, and they are not demanding that anyone adopt their point of view, on peril of ridicule and character assassination.
The second group is relying on evidence of which the kindest thing one could say is that it is far too suspect to rely on. It is known, it is demonstrated, it is beyond doubt that the material tested was taken from patches, and not from the original textile.
Despite this scandalous breach of all scientific propriety, these people continue to insist that the ridiculous farce conducted has proved that the shroud is a forgery.
Not a one of them would be caught dead signing on to such transparently fraudulent science, but for their burning compulsion to attack belief in God. And yet these are the people who claim the mantle of objectivity.
The Catholic Church itself does not openly endorse the Shroud as being the burial cloth of Jesus.
What do you suggest takes the place of “scientific consensus” then? Voodoo?
“What do you suggest takes the place of “scientific consensus” then? Voodoo?”
Logic not your strong point, Nikky?
There isn’t a consensus when the accuracy of the evidence is still in dispute, which is the case with the C-14 dating taken from the shroud. But you knew that, which is why you didn’t respond with any evidence indicating that the C-14 date has been established beyond dispute. Instead you simply decide to characterize your chosen position as “the scientific consensus”, figuring that no one will notice you trying to hijack science all for yourself. Nice try, but ultimately a lame fraud.
I notice that you didn’t dispute my point that the sole scientific evidence for a Middle Ages date is the C-14 dating. So does that mean that you have no other argument for your “consensus”? Or are you keeping some nuggets of wisdom from the rest of us rubes? And BTW, how about a list of the voters who constructed your consensus? It wasn’t just you and your cat was it?
“The Catholic Church itself does not openly endorse the Shroud as being the burial cloth of Jesus.”
Okay. And your point would be.....?
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