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Lawsuit Filed Against Clovis School District
KMJ 580 ^ | 8-22-09 | Dennis Hart

Posted on 08/22/2009 11:25:17 AM PDT by Enterprise

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Oh the HORROR!
1 posted on 08/22/2009 11:25:17 AM PDT by Enterprise
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Yeah, and I wonder WHO it is in Clovis that can’t afford the extra-curricular supplies.


2 posted on 08/22/2009 11:28:03 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Enterprise
The lawsuit claims that the district discriminates against those students who cannot afford the fees or costs.

That's pretty indisputable.

3 posted on 08/22/2009 11:28:19 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Enterprise

OK, Fine ... next year.. you can buy your own FOOTBALL EQUIPMENT, too.


4 posted on 08/22/2009 11:28:36 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's 1984 - To Conservatives, a WARNING - to Liberals, a TEXTBOOK!)
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To: Enterprise

What a lame lawsuit, I hope the judge throws it out.


5 posted on 08/22/2009 11:29:53 AM PDT by dog breath
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So you feel that a child should be excluded from even CURRICULAR activities if the parents truly cannot pay the fees?


6 posted on 08/22/2009 11:31:48 AM PDT by sfimom
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To: Enterprise
Yes, I thought this might be California. There is something written into the California Constitution regarding education that makes the payment of fees unconstitutional.

As an example, here in KY we pay school fees. This isn't for anything extracurricular, it's simply a straight up school fee. You can't do that in California.

Depending upon the actual wording involved, this lawsuit may fly.

7 posted on 08/22/2009 11:35:19 AM PDT by Dianna (Obama Barbie: Governing is hard.)
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**WHO it is in Clovis that can’t afford**

Someone who just paid all their TAXES???


8 posted on 08/22/2009 11:35:45 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Orwell's 1984 - To Conservatives, a WARNING - to Liberals, a TEXTBOOK!)
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I don’t know. Are the taxes high there? Does the school district have so many administrators it can’t afford football uniforms? Is there a Constitutional right to be a cheerleader or play the saxophone? Has the community been overrun with illegal aliens demanding to play in the marching band? Inquiring minds.


9 posted on 08/22/2009 11:39:44 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: sfimom

It would depend on the curricular activity and if it was required to graduate. Definitely to balance a budget, non essential activities can be cut back to the bone. Band, sports, cheerleading and the like, are desirable but not required.


10 posted on 08/22/2009 11:39:53 AM PDT by dog breath
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To: sfimom
So you feel that a child should be excluded from even CURRICULAR activities if the parents truly cannot pay the fees?

I agree. Every child has a constitutional right to a free tuba.

If I was on the school board, I'd vote for a consent order in the lawsuit that would shut down the band, the sports programs, etc, and name the parents responsible.

11 posted on 08/22/2009 11:40:52 AM PDT by PAR35
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Even providing the "basics" still does not mean the child can afford the associated equipment to participate in some sports. There are plenty of sports that do require a large amount of additional equipment; baseball, softball, football, golf, lacrosse, etc.

Putting aside league participation, students should be able to participate in PE activities that involve these sports, but it is up to the student and/or parents to provide additional equipment if the student CHOOSES to participate in a league or extra curricular activities. If a student freely chooses to try out for a sport that involves additional equipment, why the heck should the school pay for it? Its not like they are being forced to play the sport, and like life, there is an entrance fee for some things. The kids, or parents could get a job (or a second job) to pay for these items. But to think they entitled to have it all handed to them is ridiculous.

If a kid (or parent) cannot afford golf clubs or lacrosse equipment, that does not disqualify them from participating in swimming or wrestling or running.

12 posted on 08/22/2009 11:43:42 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If the Average nObama Voter is Anything Like Peggy Joseph, The Next 4 Years Will Be A Hoot!!!!)
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To: dog breath

Agreed. However I have seen in my own district ( I am not in CA) kids that were given poor grades or actually held back for not participating in certain required activities due to the parents not being able to pay. In my own personal experience I failed Home Economics because my mother could not afford to buy materials for me to complete the projects I was required to do.


13 posted on 08/22/2009 11:45:08 AM PDT by sfimom
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Band is not a required subject. I speciffically stated CURRICULAR activities.


14 posted on 08/22/2009 11:46:08 AM PDT by sfimom
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There is something written into the California Constitution regarding education that makes the payment of fees unconstitutional.

True, almost. Back in the day, the University of California was not allowed to charge tuition. They got around it by charging "building use fees" and stdum use fees, etc. No child in grades K-12 was ever charged for books, or school supplies. We did bring our own pencils and notebooks, but the school supplied other kinds of paper.

It was a big surprise when I moved to TX and we were issued a "school supply list" which even included Kleenex. And then the teacher collected all that stuff the first day and handed it out to other children, as needed. The only fees I ever paid in High School in CA were laundry fees for the clean towels we were issued daily in gym.

15 posted on 08/22/2009 11:46:31 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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This is gonna be spensive when drivers ed comes along......Porsce 911’s for all. It’s their RIGHT


16 posted on 08/22/2009 11:49:05 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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That is not a curricular activity. I was speaking of curricular activities. You know the ones you HAVE to do and are graded on?


17 posted on 08/22/2009 11:50:20 AM PDT by sfimom
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To: Enterprise

And the FASCIST SOCIALIST beast grows.

This nation will not be free with SOCIALISM as the foundation of our children’s youth.


18 posted on 08/22/2009 11:50:26 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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It was a big surprise when I moved to TX and we were issued a "school supply list" which even included Kleenex. And then the teacher collected all that stuff the first day and handed it out to other children, as needed.

That is the same procedure used by the private, Christian school that my children attend. If one of my children's classmates desperately needed something and the parents couldn't afford it, somehow, a paid-for one would be anonymously provided (shhh...don't tell). Actually, several of them from several different sources would probably be provided.

I don't know if this is just the district policy or a state requirement in Kansas but it really grinds my gears. A student who doesn't attend public school cannot become involved in public-school extra-curriculur activities even if additional fees are paid. But of course, I get to pay taxes to pay for all the public schools.

19 posted on 08/22/2009 12:07:56 PM PDT by CommerceComet
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When I was in highschool eveybody took drives ed. At the time I don’t know if it was extra curricular. It was a class that all kids took. Mine was 2nd period but they had six different classes every day. I realise times have changed and now it is considered extra. My comment was more to the lawsuit were it is curricular or extra-curricular activities that they want for free not you.(-:


20 posted on 08/22/2009 12:10:46 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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